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,handed out to special troops. It means the generic issue rifle, which MILLIONS of men are trained with, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>.
 

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there's been many HUNDREDS of silenced .22's issued to special troops. Does THAT make the .22 the Gi rifle round, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>? NO, and neither does the issuing of a few score of 308's.
 

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GI means general issue. Just because it is not issued to all the military doesn't mean that the military doesn't use it - and effectively. You're quibbling words and it won't work.

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M-60 is the current General Issue squad level machine gun, buddy, and thats as common as they come. M-14 is still in the inventory, and wasa the weapon of choice for the Sea-Bees when I was in the Navy. The Air Force also issues them as I am one of my units designatee marksmen.
 

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Don't forget the M240, which IIRC is what the Marines chose rather than the M249, the M21 sniper (and designated marksman) system, and the Marines were also reissued M14s in Afganistan because the typical engagement range was beyond what ANY of the M-16/M4 series could handle (Hell, a lot of it was outside event he .30 cal's range).
 

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Most of the smallarms on the ground are 5.56mm's. There are some .308 rifles being issued. These are mainly sniper rifles. The SEAL teams will sometimes deploy on a mission with 7.62mm rifles.

The main militaries in N. America and Europe still deploying large numbers of 7.62mmNATO battle rifles in general issue are Mexico, Norway, Greece, Portugal, and Turkey. All of these nations issue variations of the HK G3.

The M60 has pretty much been replaced in many units with the M240, which is the US designation for the FN MAG.

The M241 is the predominant squad auto on the ground. The US has found that a mix of 5.56mm and 7.62mm SAW's is a good combo.

As for the Marines, they have stated that they want to make sure that each Marine rifleman is issued the M4 instead of the M16A2. They have developed the squad designated marksman concept where one man in a squad isn't carrying the M4, but an accuratized M16A4 flattop with an optic.

The most powerful weapon at the disposal of US troops on the ground is a radio and a map to call in fire missions.
 

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Looks like the navy still has the M14 also
 

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The SEALs and other naval types will use the 7.62mm rifles for various tasks, especially where penetration is a factor. Most US ships still have the M14 in their arms lockers. The Seabee combat manual and the Gunner's Mate small arms RTM's still cover the M14.

Those countries I mentioned that still field 7.62mm rifles in general issue, they are also phasing in 5.56mm rifles. Portugal, for instance, is phasing in a varient of the the Sig 550.
 

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Well according to Blain, the Reptoid 13th Army of Invasion and Conquest issues 2-Phase Photon Rifles so the .223 vs. .308 thing is a moot point.

Now where can I get a copy of Spacegun News ao I can order one? :alien:
 

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TODD 3465 said:
...the Reptoid 13th Army of Invasion and Conquest issues 2-Phase Photon Rifles so the .223 vs. .308 thing is a moot point.
:alien:
"Alien" comments always make me wonder about the movie 'Signs'. Does anybody know an American farmer who has no better weapon than a baseball bat...?
 

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The U.S. airborne now does use the M-14 in Iraq. Go look at the TSRA news letter for this quarter. They show CIVILIANS teaching the Airborne Designated Marksmanship Program using M-14s with scopes. ALL of the Designated Marksmen use the M-14s in Iraq. This is not special forces, but the airborne.

One thing for sure. They don't use a POS 11 inch barrel CAR! I know of NO use of the CAR now in ANY army in the WORLD. Face it, gunkid, the CAR is a losers gun.
 

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The two standard rifle cartridges used by thhe US miktary are the 7.62(.308) and the 5,56mm(.223).
Even GunKid should know a simple fact like that.
 
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