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door, requires no ear protection at all. That is, with gun's muzzle kept inside of the van's configuration, too. Try that with a high speed .22lr in a regular rifle, and your ears will be ringing. Guys who claim that a canned .223 "sounds like an unsuppressed .22 lr" are either LYING, or never fired a GOOD one. :) Many of the commercially available cans are not particularly quiet, because the makers don't want to be bothered to create such, or they don't want to have to make the can as big and heavy as it needs to be in order to be THAT effective.

With a GOOD can, there's no audible diff between first and subsequent rounds, rapidfire or not. Just the same pool cue breaking sort of a "crack". Very "flat', short lived, doesn't echo or reverbate. VERY hard to locate, not audible at 1/4 mile in flat, open terrain, or HALF that far in wooded hills. :)
 

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This Van?

Is it the same one you dream of having with the gravel filled boxes hanging all over it for "armored" protection?The one you said could take multiple rounds and protect you?The same one I said that I would like a shot at just to see how effective and protected YOU would be?
TM and myself offered to let you do a drive-bye so that we could test this assault minivan of yours and we are more than willing to extend the offer again,hell,who knows you might just show us up and make TM and myself look really bad if his .50 couldnt do the job.Lets think of it as a controlled experiment.If you survived and were unharmed we would be the first to admit we were wrong.

My light is still on for you so you can find your way.
 

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u ignorant <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>s. A panel van has "ribs"

on its inside. All you have to do is screw plywood to them, poor gravel behind the plywood, up to 3 ft high. If being shot, at, you will be crouched or prone anyway. on the doors, behind the seats, you just mount 1/4" steel plate, from the scrap yard. The most work comes from covering it all up, with paneling and seat covers, really. It adds no more wt than having several people in the van. Just because you are too cheap and lazy to find out doesn't mean that it isnt so. It just means that you are cheap and lazy, that's all.
 

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How much 1/4 steel plate? (how many sq in?)

do you know the weight per sq in of 1/4 steel?

how about aluminum?

and, yes I know the type of steel or aluminum makes a difference in the weight.

Oh, and how much does the gravel weigh? Size gravel, thickness of the layer?


Guess what all these things can be calculated

But, you don't know, you've never even tried it.

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No Way

that a standard passenger van would hold the wieght Melvin.The plate steel and gravel you speak of combined would wiegh more than passengers,besides,what about the roof and floor?How are you going to keep the roof and floor bullet proof?

All that wieght would kill the average vans suspension thus killing any steering controll as well,Ive built alot of vehicles for off road and circle track so stick to subjects you know about.
 
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