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What happens when you get hit in the thigh with an Enfield?

It blows your leg off and then it kills you.

What happens when you get hit in the lower abdomen with an Enfield?

It blows your guts out and then it kills you.

ONE round... get the picture? And it can do this at 400m in the harshest weather possible.

For someone who preaches stealth and avoidance, you sure talk a lot about 25m engagements.
 

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andy said:
and holding STILL, is the enfield or anything ELSE going to be firing at you(much less HITTING you) at 400 yds.
BS, history, reality, etc, says you're FOS.

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Hey, stupid, shtf=no med care, and a hit in the thigh, guts or wherever with a 22 lr is going to kill you too. In thick cover or darkness, that slow assed pos bolt action is bad news, and yes, such short ranges are the NORM, IF you know enough to stay in thick cover or darkness.
The many survivors of real shootings on the frontier in the 1800's say you're FOS.

Now, any hit by a .22 may kill YOU as you continuously pour boiling water into the wound....... that combined with how you're not carrying sh^t for a medical kit and you plan on foolishly travelling alone.

Short ranges like that are the norm in built up areas and modern gunfights involving pistols. Also, nowadays everyone is just carrying pistols, maybe a shotgun. In a prolonged crisis, lots of people will be packing rifles.

You get out onto the open country and you'll be open to long range shots. You can't skulk in the bushes for years on end. Sooner or later you're going to get into a real fight unless you retreat to a really secure area (like the bodacious spot where I'd like to head).

andy said:
YOUR problem, dude is YOU are happy with blowing smoke up people's asses, and have them TRY to use crap you'd never even bother to own. I am HONEST, and tell them that even with skills and ability like MINE, it's still going to be "iffy", even with a canned CAR, good cover, water, etc.
Skills and ability? You're over 50, you've been on ice now for going on two decades, you never practice and train, you never take real forays into the field, and you have an admitted flinching problem. Luke Skywalker you ain't.

You talk like I've never even shot an Enfield.

I've owned several Enfields, including one of the Irish Enfields. They were brand new in the cosmoline, found in the early 1990's in a warehouse in Ireland. The last batch of No4 MkII rifles ever built for the British Army, but never issued because the Mau Mau Rebellion ended. The manufacturer's tag on mine said '1954'. I paid $170 for it, new, unfired, in the wrapper and cosmoline. I used a gallon of diesel and a quart of rubbing alcohol to get that sucker clean. (the MkII is the final update where the trigger was affixed to the receiver instead of the triggerguard, the MkI* is a MKI upgraded to a MkII configuration).

There is a simplistic but highly functional and lethal beauty about a new condition Enfield. One thing about that rifle, no matter how bad it gets, it'll fire. It'll also punch through things a 5.56mm won't. If I had to chose a bolt action as a fighting rifle, I'd chose the Enfield.

Actually, I'd own one in a heartbeat as my primary weapon if I was in an environment where it was optimal, such as in a marine environment or in climates that experienced extreme cold weather. I get my boat like I'm planning, I'll probably get a new manufacture AIA Enfield No4 MkIV in 7.62mmNATO that uses M-14 mags with a picatinney rail and then scope it using milspec quick detach rings. I'll also get a Remington 870 pump shotgun with ghost ring combat sights.

Regardless of climate, if, right now, I had to outfit from scratch and I only had about $150 for my primary centerfire rifle, I'd probably get a surplus No4 MkI Enfield, f^ck the SKS.

One thing I've learned is to never be married to metal. It's also one of the reasons I'm not overly obsessed with customized machining to pistols. To me guns just come and go. The world is filled with guns, even where they are 'prohibited' you can always get one if you want one.

Never get too attached to any particular firearm, as it's just metal. It is not an extension of your manhood or ego. Time comes to part with it, ditch it, or sell it, whatever, do it without hesitation and then get another one.

The extra gizmos, like beavertail safeties, etc, usually only make a decisive difference anyway in Mack Bolan novels. On a pistol, for instance, the only thing I'm usually concerned about 'smithing' or replacing are the grips, the trigger, and maybe the sights. On an M1911, maybe also the feed ramp.

If you have to do much more than that to a pistol, then you probably have the wrong pistol.

The tigger is the most important. I also like to pay particular attention on the grips for my knives and pistols. Water, blood, and other things can make things slippery and a weapon difficult to properly grasp in your hand. Human blood is about as slippery as motor oil. Not just the other guy's but your's too. Even minor wounds can sometimes get everything dangerously slippery with your own blood.

As for the AR-15/CAR-15, it is a good rifle for many circumstances, but not all of them. It's just a weapon like many others, not the holy grail.
 

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The Enfield can punch through cover and get someone far better than an AR.

But, of course, in some people's limited thinking, once you can't see someone, you have no idea where they are. Sort of like a weird version of adult 'peek a boo'. "Golly, he just disappeared behind that darn tree, now I have NO idea where he went!"
 
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