and ol redhawg Dave asked me if I could hit a dove on a wire with it, well over 100 yds away. standing unsupported, I held about a dove height over it. I dont recall what scope,some 3/4" .22 thing and a 541 replacement trigger. Centered its chest, (by the feathers and dead drop). We couldn't find it in the cattails and mud. Made a believer out of ol Dave.