Joe, Kay told me that she and Bob ran into Heinie at the Peoria show. He told bob that I was getting out, he was MOVING because of it and he advised Bob to do the same! Laughed my ass off, but Bob should have taken the advice. He got some serious heartburn, in 2001, or so, when he found out Kay and I had been hot and heavy again, for a couple of years. I spoke to her Daughter once, on the phone, but nothing resonated at all. Kay later became convinced that Mandy is Bob's, but she surely did not think so for the first 10 years or so.