[andy]

the hit, 10" at 10 ft, if they are using DA0 and I have a (chamber empty) lw commander. You aint even C class, when it comes to real speed from concealment, realistic conditions, not bs 'set-position" starts.

10" at 10 ft, varied hand starts, reaction, CCW draw (realistic concealment, not bs unfastened coat) and making 180 or 90 degree pivots prior to each draw, after the start signal. A class time, 5 shot average, is 1.2 second. B class is 1.4 seconds. C class is 1.7 seconds. D class is 2 seconds.

It's every BIT as hard to (FIVE FOR FIVE) react, ccw draw and hit 10" disk at 10 ft as it is to hit 18"x24" target at 10 yds. If you dont believe it, BET a year's pay on the 5 try average, "cold", no warmups. A really top hand is able to "blend" some of the time needed to rack of the slide into the pivot and the clearing of the garment. that's why I say what I say about the pocket rig's speed, when a GOOD hand, using a good gun and rig, in PROPER pants uses such a rig.

 

[Hard Ball]

When was the last time you shot an IPSC match to establish these "facts" if they are facts?

 

[DJetAce]

A "B" class IPSC shooter is not a good shot. Between the fancy speed rigs, fancy guns, and they still don't shoot good. Just spray-n-pray. I guess gunkid, in his old age, is reminicing.

 

[andy]

would you like to BET,say, $50,000 that they can't be PROVEN? I have $5k, and when I bet about something I'm SURE of, I give ten to 1 odds. Human limits change VERY little, old man. What was super fast in 1980 is STILL superfast today, when realistic gear and conditions are used.

 

[DJetAce]

Tell me, gunkid, how are you going to get 'most' class 'B' shooters to demo? And you DO slow down at old age, with glasses, hearing aids, cane (that's your poor eyesight, hearing, and your bad back.)

 

[DJetAce]

He, dumbkid, I thought I was on 'ignore'? What happend, did you forget in your old age? That's ok, I understand.

 

[Aslan]

would you like to BET,say, $50,000 that they can't be PROVEN? I have $5k, and when I bet about something I'm SURE of, I give ten to 1 odds. Human limits change VERY little, old man. What was super fast in 1980 is STILL superfast today, when realistic gear and conditions are used.

Hey dumb*ss, when giving ten to 1 odds, YOU are the one that should be putting up the 50K, not the other guy. You are giving 1 to 10 odds, as in your 1 (5k) to the other guy's 10 (50k)

What a maroon...

:devil:

 

[brass hammer]

Too Funny!

:laugh:



THANKS.

 

[Garand]

Hey DJet, be nice!! I was a "B" class shooter before I quit IPSC back in '96. There is a deffinite difference shooters that fire 15,000 rds a year and those that shoot 150,000 rds a year. I shot the former.

 

[DJetAce]

Garand,

'Good' is relative. It's less the firing than the gun handling skills. If you practice handling skills ever night or so, 30 min, it will go along way to making you both faster and straiter shot.

Gunkid just, I guess, never 'thinks' before he post. He gets so many things backward (like a DAO shot will be cocking his weapon using the trigger before the even have the gun lined up for the shot.) We all know he is just dreaming.