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I Think I'll Buy An "Assault Weapon."
By Larry Simoneaux on 11/05/03

Last Saturday, however, I saw an editorial cartoon in the Seattle
Post-Intelligencer lampooning gun owners (and others) and I wish to offer the following with regard to "assault weapons."

To be sure, there are rifles that are assault weapons. These are gas operated, individually carried, magazine fed, shoulder fired, military weapons, designed for sustained and fully automatic fire.

Whew!

Short version: Hold the trigger back and that puppy will empty faster than some of us can read this sentence. As one might surmise from the cartoon, the lip moving while us gun owners are reading slows us down a bit.

You see, assault weapons are designed to put a grunch of bullets into the air all at once. This makes the bad guys put their heads down while you assault them. The idea works until said bad guys start shooting their assault weapons. Then, who's assaulting whom becomes less clear. Fog of war and whatnot.

Anyway, I want to buy a Browning Automatic Rifle. This rifle vaguely resembles an automatic weapon designed in the early 1900's but it is neither automatic nor does it have a large magazine. You see, I'm a hunter and I'll use it during deer season.

I might also mention that I'm nearly normal (raising three teenagers has taken its toll) and have been married for 32 years - to the same woman, no less. My last run-in with the law was a speeding ticket in1974. I (somewhat grudgingly) pay taxes and tend to regard all politicians with suspicion and a vague annoyance. I like songs with printable lyrics and movies where the good guys never cry. As you can see, I'm the very definition of a "gun nut."

I digress.

Many hunters use semi-automatic rifles. These rifles usually have a five round capacity and fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. If you've missed on the first shot, however, the remaining four rounds serve only to tell others just how poor a shot you really are. Such a rifle can also be described as an "auto loader" since that's what it's been doing all the while you were missing.

With the above as background, let's revisit the term "assault weapon."

There are rifles available that resemble their military counterparts. These are not, however, "assault weapons." They are nothing more than semi-automatic rifles with a large magazine capacity. The vast majority of Americans who own such firearms use them in a safe, legal, and responsible manner.

The problem that gun owners have with the continuous and inaccurate use of the term "assault weapons" is that we know there are those who would like nothing better than to ban all firearms. When such individuals propose laws banning "assault weapons," we generally find that their definition of such weapons encompasses all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. As you might expect, we regard this as a bad thing.

The right to own firearms (you read it your way, I'll read it mine) is
spelled out in the Second Amendment. Further, when you research the intent of this amendment, it's clear that it has nothing to do with sporting arms. Rather, its purpose was to allow the citizenry the wherewithal to prevent the imposition of tyranny.

There are many who wish to eliminate gun ownership in this country. They have the right to try this. To do so, however, they should not resort to subterfuge aimed at achieving their goal. The continued and inaccurate use of the term "assault weapons" when referring to certain types of firearms comes across as just such a tactic.

One could liken such efforts to "profiling." That is, if something looks like an "assault weapon" then, certainly, it must be an "assault weapon." And, by the way, why isn't anyone hauling them all off and locking them up to keep the rest of us safe?

Substitute, if you would, the word "terrorist" for "assault weapon." Now sit back and listen for the howls from a certain quarter.

It's been said before but, wouldn't it be something if those who wished to ban "assault weapons" would expend their energy in demanding the enforcement of the thousands of gun laws already on the books and the harsh punishment of those who break them.

Were that the case, editorial cartoons that further divide those on either side of the gun ownership issue would never be published.

Unfortunately, this will never likely happen.

And, so, I guess I'll just go ahead and buy my "assault weapon" while I still can.

The noise from those extra rounds will certainly keep the deer moving.

http://www.americandaily.com/item/3342


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James Ehlers

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Great post rich, I was going to talk about lever actions and single actions revolvers, but I think that I won't, (don't want to give the anti-guners any ideas).

One thought, why do you need a BAR for hunting in WA state? Are you hunting the east side or out of state?

My last two animals, one deer and one elk, were taken with 44 mags. The elk with a Win 94, and the deer with a Super Blackhawk, both in the pacific county area.

Terry

P.S. Just thought I would ask
 
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BAR's seem like a "cool" weapon. I say that because I've never plinked around with one outside of the game "Medal of Honor". However, I agree with you on the misinterpritied "Assault Weapons" theme. I would consider my semi-auto Romanian AK an assault rifle even though it is semi-auto. An AK with a 30 round clip isn't too common of a thing to hunt deer with, IMO. Anyway, let's keep this short. I hope gun control doesn't sweep the nation and if it does I'll wait until our nation gets invaded by another and gloat about how they would have never attacked us if we where all armed...

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Oh oh...

I forgot, In Georgia it is LEGAL to own firearms that "Fires two or three individual projecticles by one pull of the trigger". Though it's not recognized by the Federal Government you could have a three shot burt M16 as opposed to the semi-auto AR15 version.
But then again... Why the hell do the US assault rifles (m16, ar15, etc) cost more than AK's? Is it because theres a plethora of AK's? And don't tell me it's because AK's are [bleep]ty rifles like some people have. I've heard that AK's can surpass M16's especially that they are easier to clean and maintain and that they don't jam "when dropped in the mud" or used in dusty situations.
Maybe the US limits the number of surplus or the fact that after the soviet block fell there where enourmous amounts of AK's being sold. Hell, I've heard you can buy an AK for $10 bucks in some parts of Africa. But that's probably USD and you all know USD beats the [bleep] out of most countries... *cough* Canada. *cough*. I've heard a family of six can live like kings in Vietnam (i think Nam) for $100 a month...
 

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Hmm, oddly enough, I have never had an urge to own a 762x39 weapon. Now I do have Galils and and Valmet, which are he basic AK mechanism. But the ones I have are in .223 and .308.
 

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"Assault weapon" is a Clintonism. A catch-all phrase that liberals love to misuse to full advantage, much to our chagrin. To them, a Mini-14 is an assualt weapon. Any black gun is
A B.A.R. is a fine weapon but it weighs 20#+ empty! A lot to be chasing deer with and sure to weigh a lot more (seemingly) after a day in the woods. Wouldn't it be grand if we could hunt liberals? In that case, A BAR would be ultralite and a pleasure to carry. If you want one, get one. I sure would!
 

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Assualt wepon, that depends on the target. To an M1 tank that could be a helo or a strike aircraft. To a deer it could be an 06.

the ability to fire more then one round with a single trigger pull does not mean anything if you can't controll th weapon. I still believe in the 1950 attatude, put the first shot on target and you won't need a second.

I have moved to Akaska in the last year, and have taken my first Moose, one shot, 44 mag, win 94! Moose made two steps and went down! 300 grain at 1800fps about 75yds. Took the whole day to dress and move back to cabin, estamated 1800 lbs dressed and skinned.
 

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This looks like a good place for me to confess my fault. For the last 40 years I have never had a use for a semi-auto, Never shot one, just figured they were just ammo wasters.
Well I have spent thousands on guns trying to find what I want, one does this, another that.
Well I took my Muzzleloader and went with my buddy Tom shooting his AK and SKS and 45ACP. I fell in love with the SKS, the balance, the recoil, the noise and its ruggedness.
So I bought an un-issued SKS. I like the AK too. I am have many problems with this gun though, no body else has these problems, I hope to get it working tomarrow.
 

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B.FRANKlin said:
"Assault weapon" is a Clintonism. A catch-all phrase that liberals love to misuse to full advantage, much to our chagrin. To them, a Mini-14 is an assualt weapon. ..........................Wouldn't it be grand if we could hunt liberals? QUOTE]


Hunt Librals :madeuce: :laugh01::uzi:
 

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come on out to the "notsogreat" state of Ct., Ya can't take a dump with out 'em trying to tax it or make you register it (so they can tax it later). All this so you can support all the politicians in jail and the welfare cases in Hartford and Bridgeport. They even are trying to pass a law so that your responsible for the assault if some douche bag
steals a firearm from you and shoots someone before you report it missing. Picture this: you and the family head out on a trip on a monday, said douche-bag breaks in to your house, gets into your steel gun locker on Tuesday. On Wed. Mr douche-bag robs the Quicky-mart and shoots the clerk. Thur. the cops get him on a traffic violation and find the gun, so off to jail he goes....Friday you also became a FELON because YOU did not report your gun stolen by the alleged douch-bag within 72 hours. Sunday you come home, discover the b&e and theft ,call the cops, report the gun stolen and recieve a summons to appear for your failure to report the theft........ Oh, and don't forget you will be sued by the store clerk that got shot, because this whole thing is YOUR fault anyway....Welcome to the land of liberal lawyers.
 

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What kind of problems? Did you strip and clean it real good? I have an unissued Yugo SKS and, after initial cleaning, worked perfect, although I haven't found a good 30 rd. mag to work in it yet. They are easy to strip & clean. Brake-Kleen (non-chlorinated) gets the grease out of places you can't reach and usually melts the visible stuff. OK for the stock, too. Just spray, let it dry, wipe down w/rag. They are loads of fun, good cheap ammo, accurate, reliable, tough. Might be some grease in the gas port.
 

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B.FRANKlin said:
What kind of problems? Did you strip and clean it real good? I have an unissued Yugo SKS and, after initial cleaning, worked perfect, although I haven't found a good 30 rd. mag to work in it yet. They are easy to strip & clean. Brake-Kleen (non-chlorinated) gets the grease out of places you can't reach and usually melts the visible stuff. OK for the stock, too. Just spray, let it dry, wipe down w/rag. They are loads of fun, good cheap ammo, accurate, reliable, tough. Might be some grease in the gas port.
Yes it had 2 problems,
The (I forget name) lever in the trigger mech that feels the bolt was too long and would not let the hammer go, I filed it off a tad, works great now.
Next the firing pin was too long and poked holes in the primers, I got a new improved one, works just dandy now, in fact shot 20 on the way home tonight, never missed a beat.
And no I did not clean it as good as I should, But it's good now.

Yall wouldn't know what tool is best to adjust the front site would ya?
 

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They make a tool for front sight adj. but you might try some common nut-drivers to see if they will work. I haven't messed with mine, didn't need to. Bought a nice scope set (scope, covers, rings, rec. mount, and 20 ammo clips) at a gun show for $40.00. Put it on, fired it up, and didn't really need to adjust it, that is, unless I wanted to shoot sub-moa like small letter andy! Nyuk!
 

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Thanks for the reply, I just made a nice sight tool and now am building a c-clamp or O-clamp thingy for windage.
I have scoped guns, but want this one to be open sights.
What do you know about these things you put in the magazine to limit capacity for hunting?
Its great fun to yak with ones own kind, like yall.
Thanks,
Andrew(The Bible Totin Gun Slinger)
 

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Thanks for the reply, I just made a nice sight tool and now am building a c-clamp or O-clamp thingy for windage.
I own 2 Bulagarian AK's. They paint the rifles after they put a phosphate coating on them.......short story, the front sights can be a real bitch to get to move. I solved the problem by cutting off the end of large Craftsman screwdriver and then slotting the tip with a dremmel tool. Works like a champ.

For windage, you can put the muzzle of the rifle in a vice with a large socket on one side and a smalller one on the other. As you tighten the vice it will drive the sight drum into the larger socket and move the sight.

I don't think the BAR that the guy is talking about in the story is the WW2 variety, I think he's talking about a regular Browning BAR that is designed for hunting.

Georgia has a 3 round burst is ok law? I doubt it. That's covered under federal law and federal law supercedes state law. WV could pass a law tomorrow saying that full auto was ok but it would still be illegal because Federal law says it is.
 

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fffg100grns said:
B.FRANKlin said:
"Assault weapon" is a Clintonism. A catch-all phrase that liberals love to misuse to full advantage, much to our chagrin. To them, a Mini-14 is an assualt weapon. ..........................Wouldn't it be grand if we could hunt liberals? QUOTE]


Hunt Librals :madeuce: :laugh01::uzi:
The libs think a Remington Model 11 shotgun is an Assault Weapon ! Or the Remington Model 8 rifle. Sad state of affairs !
 

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What would you use to hunt a liberal? My chose would be quad 50.
 

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What would you use to hunt a liberal? My chose would be quad 50.
A big oak stick! Lots of money for lawyers!
 
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