and lightened everything I could, making it weigh 19 oz. even 200 grs at 700 fps loads were NASTY to use in it. Pocket .45 is never going to be feasible. Just WAY too much recoil with a 1 lb gun and that weight is about all that's feasible in a truly pocket-carryable gun. There's a REASON that Smith offered the .38 snub with an alloy frame. A steel M36 sags the pocket quite a bit. That "mere" 4.5 oz difference between them amounts to a lot, if you ccw in the front pants pocket all the time.