[andy]

effectiveness. Jesus, no wonder the species is in the toilet.

 

[Garand]

If the balloon ever goes up, shot placement will keep you alive. Marksmanship is a perishable skill. When was the last time you went shooting gunkid? 1998?

 

[Hard Ball]

Actually hits with .45 ACP ball below the belt seem to have a paralyzing effect on the victim. I will agree that torso hits above the belt are better. With any caliber however shot placement is critical!

 

[Piemaster]

but andy thinks that a wound from a 22 caliber non expanding-non fragmenting bullet is good enough to put someone down and eliminate them as a threat.

10" AR that's all you have for a wound at any sort of range, a 22 caliber hole.