your little ego can't HANDLE the lack of success? You can't be bothered to build THAT much skill as a pistolero and hunter, or what? Rifles are for WAR, or serioius foraging. Nobody has to hunt anymore, so the rifle is just in case of ww3, really. That's why I dont bother with any rifle but the CAR-15, and mostly just practice with the .22 unit. Why waste the time and money on more? The 223, with the can mounted on it, is unbelievably "tame", so anything that can be done, on the targets and the timer, is also easily done with the canned 223. So why KID yourself that you can do as well with a noisy 308, and with no ear protection, hmm? Any little kid can see that you wont be doing anything of the kind.