carrying their M39 auto's when off duty. MOst of the guys never carried at ALL off duty, or at most, carried an airwt snubby, derringer, .25 auto, etc. Contrary to the bs that you hear and read on the net, VERY few guys carry a full size and wt gun, ccw, at ALL, much less "all the time". They TALK a good game, but that's ALL it is, is TALK.