pistols that wouldn't group much, if any better than 3" at 25 yds. Since that's at least TWICE the accuracy of anybody using a sling shot and ball bearings, you get my point. A truly good .22 pistol will group 1.5" at 50 yds, too. Ive taken another truckload of small critters with 22 rifles, and iron sights, that couldn't group any better than that. All this crap about 'needing" .5" groups at 50m, in order to forage effectively is just that, pure crap.