at 300m (or maybe 200m,I forget) So you just HAVE to have a Lion Scout, in 358,you see. I told him that if I was ever attacked by guys carrying 1/2" thick steel shields, I'd be sure to have a BAR, in 300 Win Mag. SAME bs as Garand. Bullet placement aint POSSIBLE when you are being shot at, other than keeping MOST of your shots on the chest, perhaps. The heart is no bigger a mark than the BRAIN, so if you COULD reliably hit the heart, why not just brain the pos, hmm? you dont try because you CAN'T. Well, you can't hit the heart, reliably, EITHER. Hits to the heart are not all THAT likely to result in an instant stop, either, because the brain still has 5 second's worth of oxygenated blood in it, at ALL times. A hit to the heart, in many places, with .45 ball ammo will NOT stop the heart from beating, for quite a while, either. Hits to lungs,liver, spleen will not bleed out the man for many seconds, perhaps even minutes, with .45 ball, especially. so "shot placement" is bs, with pistols, when it's for real. u r going to be PUMPING lead as the guy, faster than you have ever fired before in your LIFE. you will be MOVING, as will your attacker, the light will be poor, your eyes will be dazzled by the flashes, of your gun and his, and your ears will be RINGING because of the blasts. Bullet placement my ass.