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the pistol "serve any useful purpose" as it does to learn the guitar well enough to be paid for playing it. :) You dont get paid to play guitar after working at it for 50 hours, so Jeff's "basic" pistol course must be just bs, eh? Yet he CLAIMS that half of its graduates are so good that"anyone who attacks them has probably committed inadvertent suicide". Bs, almost NOBODY can handle a sudden charge by a knifeman, standing start, from 5m away, if the 1911 is ccw'd under REALISTIC outer wear, and believe me, Jeff's basic course doesn't make you very fast at ALL. The half of the graduates who amount to much had a LOT of gun-experience, at least with longarms, BEFORE they ever saw GunSite, count on that. :)
 

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Basic means just that; you learn the fundamentals of firearms safety and the elemental firearms skills. It isn't designed to make you fast. I think that anyone who applies himself to the course will take home a confidence and competency that will allow him to handle most matters.

Didn't Jeff say that you were a "fruitcake"?

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DOJ annual Crime Survey says 65-75%

of all attacks are NOT committed with a gun. You better NOT shoot anybody beyond about 10 ft, if they don't have some sort of projectile weapon. If you do, the odds are pretty good you'll go to prison for having done so, and REALLY good that you will be sued (successfully) for every dime you have, or ever make.

Furthermore, the FBI'S Uniform Crime Report says that over HALF of the GUN attacks, on COPS, occur at less than 10 ft. Civilians are attacked at CLOSER ranges, on the average, too. So you can figure on 2/3rds of the 1/3rd of all attacks that ARE committed by a gun-armed person, and are JUSTIFIABLY resisted bya CIVILIAN, will be at 10 ft or less. probably 3/4 of such are at 15 ft or less. So you can be certain that 90% of the time, if you HAVE to fire, it will be at 15 ft or less. 95+% of the time, it will be at 20 ft or less, and only about 1% of the time, will you justifiably fire, as a civilian, beyond 30 ft.

No, slower fire, at longer ranges, does NOT make you faster at closer ranges, anymore than playing badminton makes you a champion Jai-alai player. The 2 are only REMOTELY the same sort of an exercise.
 

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JEFF is a fruitcake, as I've demonstrated

above, so whatever he may say about ANYBODY is no guide to anything.
 

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Nearly ALL of Jeff's Basic Course is wasted

on ranges WELL beyond the 10 ft limit of 80+% of what civilians can JUSTIFY having fired. All he's doing is setting you up to waste yet ANOTHER $2500 on the 'intermediate" course, and ANOTHER $2500 on the "Advanced' course. :)
 

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At those ranges against any sort of decent opponent he will be on you before you can even get the gun out. Especially if its carried in the typical waistband type concealed carry.
 

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guys who don't know who Cooper

is need to read up a LOT more on guns. :) A REALLY fast man can easily handle a charge from 5 yds, if he's focused on the attacker at the time. contrary to what guys claim, it takes 1.5 seconds to charge, standing start, from 5 yds, nearly 2 full seconds to do so from 7 yds. Irregardless, the firing will be a 1 handed point, at about 3-4 ft range, and a fast man can easily react, draw from a ccw belt rig and hit chest, at such a range, in 1 second flat, and some few can do so in .80 second.
 

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Who is Jeff?, and why should we worry if he talks to you?
Jeff being Mr. Cooper.

Goonkid THINKS he's on a first-name basis with people who actually know what they're doing. He thinks that it makes him look like he knows what he's doing, and moreover, he thinks it makes him look important.

In reality, it signals that he's a wannabe and is trying to imply he has knowledge that he demonstrably does not have.
 
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Isn't there such a thing as begining guitar classes? I guess stupekid never heard of them. About right. Shows Jeff knows more about shooting than stupekid knows about, well, anything.
 

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What a wannabe.
 

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JEFF is a fruitcake, as I've demonstrated

above, so whatever he may say about ANYBODY is no guide to anything.
So, you use him as an appeal to authority (one of the classic fallacies), and then disparage him. So if he is a flake, doesn't that make you a flake for agreeing with him in your original post? Are we supposed to take what (you claim) he said as gospel on the pistol, but suddenly he is a flake when it comes to his opinion of you? I'm more inclined to believe he is correct that you ARE a fruitcake - especially when you post as two different people having a conversation...which is pretty sad.

Also, you keep claiming to have demonstrated many things, but nobody seems to be able to find any examples. Can you provide some?
 

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JEFF is a fruitcake, as I've demonstrated

above, so whatever he may say about ANYBODY is no guide to anything.

Really a petty sounding loser calling the man who is often referred to as the father of the modern technique a "fruitcake"?

What IGMO fails to understand is it's not just shooting skill but things like staying alert you know situational awareness.

IGMO you have not demonstrated shit except what a petty jealous sociopath you happen to be.
 

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Pretend for a moment (just pretend), that he has actually shown somebody up. He can't find the post, because he has no idea where he posted it. Because he randomly tosses stuff all over the place with zero rhyme or reason. He has zero clue of even where to look. Pretty funny. Pretty sad. 100% ironic.

But we're stupid for suggesting he put posts in the correct forums and keep conversations in the same thread.:rolleyes:
 

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Pretend for a moment (just pretend), that he has actually shown somebody up. He can't find the post, because he has no idea where he posted it. Because he randomly tosses stuff all over the place with zero rhyme or reason. He has zero clue of even where to look. Pretty funny. Pretty sad. 100% ironic.

But we're stupid for suggesting he put posts in the correct forums and keep conversations in the same thread.:rolleyes:
ROFLMAO the thought is hilarious!🤣
 
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