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I don't know what Farmer's or Rancher's are like in Melvin's area, but "shooting a Cow" or otherwise stealing from a Farmer is apt to be very dangerous for the thief. A case in point: A few week's ago a Farmer noticed his irrigation equipment had been torn open and copper wire removed. He and a number of his fellow's formed a watch group and using cell phones and ATV's surrounded the thieves and held them at gunpoint for the county Sheriff's Department. In SHTF the trio probably would have been dead. Melvin, dope fantasies are still fantasies.
 

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that's now, but shtf will change all that, radically. the farmer's likely to be already dead, anyway. nothing is going to save the livestock. Starving dogs and people WILL eat the cattle, what doesn't rot, that is.
 

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And what does your crystal ball say is going to happen to a drug addicted city boy without firearms, transportation, or a fall back position? The city mob's would eat you alive.
 
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wtf makes you think transport would be needed, or that I aint got such? wtf makes you "think" I wont have access to silenced armament? Wtf makes you think that a guy who grew up on a farm without running water, who chopped wood, hauled coal, and pumped water by hand is a "city boy"? The fact is, anything you can do, I can do better, with one hand behind me.
 

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That was then, not now. You said you don't even hike; you might turn an ankle.
 

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the livestock is going to be slaughtered. it's just a question of by whom, and how soon. You'll have no damned idea who did it, or if the guy claiming to be the owner really is so, or if he's just the legit owner's (recent) killer.

Many places, the livestock will die of dehydration if power-pumping of water stops.
 

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Melvin, you can't even dig your own spider hole, because of your bad back. You had to get "wifey" to do it!
 
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