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from some factory's cutting holes in huge steel plates. 20c a lb or so. 3/16" thick is ok for .22lr, 1/4" for 9mm, 3/8" for .45. Thinner means dents in the metal from bullet impact, heavier means you can barely tell if you hit it. Drill two holes near the "top" of each disk, hang by a wire is an easy way to have 'reactive" targets, but the bullet splash or direct hits often cuts the wire. I always just welded chain "half links" on the top rear of each plate, which helps in this regard.
 

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reactive targets and a timer, along with a .22 conversion unit, are THE way to gain real speed of hitting ability, with pistol or rifle. After you are regularly posting Class A scores with the pistol, the .22 unit is no longer an aid,but actually a detriment to you, because you need to learn to control the centerfire's recoil at high speed repeat hitting. It's never an issue with the rifle,since the canned 223 is so "tame".
 

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Okay, good ideas. I will differ with you in that IMO most rifle practice should be done without the suppressor. Think its important, even if you wear ear protectors, to get used to the noise and the blast. Again IMO the suppressor is a supplement to be used as needed and not all the time.

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I used to be of the same mind regarding suppressors, Rika. But I've gotta confess that since I've gotten the one for my AR, the only time I shoot the gun without it is when doing a "with & without" noise comparison for someone. One main reason is that the gun handles very differently with & without it, and I like keeping the "feel" consistent when using the gun. Although this gun's admittedly oriented for short-to-medium range, "quick" use; on a long range bipod-ed bench rifle, it may not matter that much.

The fact that this is a sealed-unit design with no disassembly maintenance requirements, and carries a lifetime warranty is also a factor. If the suppressor needed maintenance every few hundred (or few thousand) rounds, I wouldn't use it nearly as much, just to avoid the hassle. But as it is, there's no downside or 'cost' to using it all the time, so I do.

For recreational shooting with my bolt guns (.308's), on the other hand, I still enjoy the "boom" & jolt, even with earplugs. Much like the slam of the .454, or the rumble of a heavy engine waiting to be slammed forward, I guess; just a visceral thing.
 

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I disagree to gunkids methods of plates. First if the plate is going to be to thin you will get dimpling, secondly you can cause richocets with the holes being cut in the front; The plates at my range are as follows; A 10" disc with a "U" bracket welded on the back of the plate with a 3/8" bolt, held up by a steel post welded to a tire and rim. If you angle it off 5 degrees you will have minimal richocets. Most shooter that wear glasses don't bother getting safety glasses, this could cause problems as it might not stop a richocet.
 

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I hang mine like a gong, and use the outside lanes, with the plate slightly angled towards the berm. Hanging like this also tends to angle it towards the ground a tad. I like thick plates. The impact can be heard, you don't need a visual "falling target" to know if you hit it or not.
 

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There is NO reason to EVER want the blast, and recoil just slows you down. The reason you THINK the way you do is you are too, cheap and chicken<font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font> to get one, too inept to make your own, that's all. It's a common thing, "sour grapes", really. If you need a rifle, you need it to be quiet, and not have any muzzle flash. If you don't need the latter, you don't need the rifle, basically. The lack of blast REALLY helps combat accuracy, because you will not at all be likely to have ear protection in a fight, and half of the reason guys MISS so much is the blast and the flash, and TAKING accurate return fire, because they stupidly reveal their positions with the noise and the flash. With the enemy's fire not coming close, you can take more time to hit, and without your night vision being ruined, you can see your luminous sights.
 

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To base your whole defence or offence on a firearm that requires a suppressor, is to depend on a crutch if the balloon ever goes up. Lack of flexibility could very well kill you!
 

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Of course some people HAVE suppressors for their .308s, they just don't blab about it and aren't stupid enough to walk around with it always mounted. There are many things in SHTF that will kill you without ever meeting a person. The short bus rider's lack of skill will be his killer.
 
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