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Maybe as survivalists we ought to buy some black powder revolvers while they're still unregulated...they'd be better than nothing.

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I am still giving myself mental kicks in the butt for not buying that one Ruger Old Army I saw used for under $200.:unhappy:

If there's any black powder pistol I'd take into combat today that would be it.

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I already have a pair of Colt 1860 replicas in .44 calibre. I also have an extra cylinder for each, thus a quick reload can be had, or, if carrying only one revolver, three quick reloads can be had.

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If you are a New York state resident, you may want to act soon if you want one.

"The Investigators" are a television news (ABC/NYC) team;

Last week, The Investigators went undercover to expose a gaping loophole
in New York state's gun laws. Now Governor Eliot Spitzer is promising to
examine the problem more closely.

The Investigators Jim Hoffer has the story.

The black powder rifle's exemption from gun laws is one of the last
remaining major gun loopholes in the state of New York. But the days of
buying this deadly weapon no questions asked may be numbered.

Our undercover investigation showed with alarming clarity just how easy
it is to get a black powder rifle in New York.

Be it in a department store or on the Internet, the highly powerful .50
caliber weapon can be purchased without any identification, permit or
background check.

That's because the black powder gun is muzzle loaded and therefore
classified as antique -- and state and federal gun laws do not include
antique firearms.

We took the issue to the governor, the one most able to do something
about it.

Jim Hoffer: "What if anything can you do as governor to try to close
this black powder gun loophole?"

Governor Spitzer: "We have a number of loophole closing gun-related
bills that have been proposed. None of which has moved yet through the
legislature, but I will look to see if they cover this particular

Hoffer: "And if they don't will you move on that do you think?"

Spitzer: "Sure, it's obviously something that bears examination. "

Twice in the last four months, the deadly black-powder gun made news.
First, a student with a history of psychological problems carried one
loaded onto the St. John's University campus. And in June, a convicted
rapist with the same kind of gun shot and nearly killed a state police

"These guns can kill and they should be subject to the same restrictions
that other guns are subject to," said Michael Gianaris (D-Queens).

The Queens state lawmaker says after seeing our investigation he'll be
introducing legislation to close the loophole that exempts these
so-called antique weapons from gun laws.

"Clearly this gun has already done harm to a state trooper, it almost
caused a tragedy at St. John's and we have to act quickly to keep them
out of the hands of people who shouldn't be holding guns," Gianaris said.

Assemblyman Gianaris plans to introduce the gun bill in the general
assembly next week.

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Ban knives, forks, rolling pins and heavy frying pans too. Its for the children. In fact build rubber walls around the state to keep the inmates inside.

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