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was 30,000 rds per hit, ww2 about 20,000 rds per hit, WWI still many thousands of rds per hit, Civil War was many hundreds of rds per hit, even Revolutionary war was like 100+ rds fired per hit. And you get "auditory exclusion", that lets you hit. LOL, When you hit, without ear protection, rapidfire, beyond about 50m, on fully exposed torsos, it's by LUCK. Sure, the RARE single sniper or hunting type shot, you can "bear down" and get off a good shot, without ear protection, but such is about 1% of rifle combat. IN other words, it's MEANINGLESS. You can't PROVE your claims of auditory exclusion in practice, so that means that such claims are essentially bs.
 

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That ammunition that was expended in those quanties was because there was a war on! The gov't supplied the ammo! DUH! If the balloon ever goes up it could be every man for himself. Just because you are incapable of conserving your ammo, doesn't mean that we suffer from YOUR problems!
 

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Gunkid says: "You can't PROVE your claims of auditory exclusion in practice, so that means that such claims are essentially bs."

You have obviously never been hunting. Auditory exclusion works as any hunter knows.

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Melvin, do you think soldiers wear earplugs in combat?If you do your a bigger fool than I even thought you were.Your posts show you know nothing of combat, let alone shooting under stress.As the saying goes, I've been there, done that, and I'll say this to you, ever wonder why so many soldiers say it was earily quiet AFTER a firefight, it's because their hearing has shut down due to auditory exclusion.
Your own posts show your inability to handle real fighting.Octobers the next campout, come on down, I'll fire my 308's, 223's,Ak's, hell I'll even fire my 50(from the bipod of course) without earplugs, on everything but the 50 I'll shoot at a moving target while I am moving, without earplugs.What do ya say?You in or are you going to crawfish again?
 

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andy said:
was 30,000 rds per hit, ww2 about 20,000 rds per hit, WWI still many thousands of rds per hit, Civil War was many hundreds of rds per hit, even Revolutionary war was like 100+ rds fired per hit. And you get "auditory exclusion", that lets you hit. LOL, When you hit, without ear protection, rapidfire, beyond about 50m, on fully exposed torsos, it's by LUCK. Sure, the RARE single sniper or hunting type shot, you can "bear down" and get off a good shot, without ear protection, but such is about 1% of rifle combat. IN other words, it's MEANINGLESS. You can't PROVE your claims of auditory exclusion in practice, so that means that such claims are essentially bs.
If you don't mind, the correct statistic is 50,000 rounds of SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION fired. It does not specify from rifles. Machine guns fire small arms ammunition. So do mini-guns from AC-130 aircraft at 6,000 7.62MM RPM. The average Grunt fired his rifle a LOT in a combat situation, but he didn't score just 1/50,000th of the time. That's absurd.
 

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i remember

live fire in the virgin is. area where i had my m-60 set up laying covering out to about 900 meters as squad assaults on a ridge crest, when they advanced to 40-50 meters of my stitchting they would pop colored smoke and i'd shift fire up slope 100 meters,or so,BUT the 2 amtracs firing their .50cals firing over my head[30-40 meters behind me on left and right, in triangle formation]

they were putting fire on ridge crest[never shifting, nice to be trusted by battalion command,huh?[[ i was very good at my job, thank you]]

BUT the sound of those dualing fiftys behind me was flat out putting a hurting to my hearing[ciggarette butts in ears didn't help much after a while]
i got to where i'd put my finger in my left ear when not running the t and e
this lasted all day,and i have very poor hearing in my right ear ever since[i don't know about this auditoury exclusion,i wish i did!]


i'm not crying about it now[i loved it] but the cumlitive[sp]effect of that one day, was severe



thanks.
 

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andy said:
was 30,000 rds per hit, ww2 about 20,000 rds per hit, WWI still many thousands of rds per hit, Civil War was many hundreds of rds per hit, even Revolutionary war was like 100+ rds fired per hit.
This is one of those statistics that becomes more understandable when you look into it. Small arms firepower has increased over time, but there are other factors, too.

Soldiers often fire at places where no enemy has been observed, but an enemy might be able to hide there. Many times rounds are fired at these places just to keep a lurking enemy from poking his head up.

In ambushes, soldiers may be directed to fire as many rounds as possible in pre-determined fields of fire. When soldiers enter rooms during house clearing, they enter firing because an enemy might be there. The large volumes of fire often comfort the soldiers firing them, instilling confidence and promoting aggressive action against the enemy.

Are these rounds wasted? To the soldiers they are not.
 
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