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That's an aweful lot of cash for a 'survivalist' to spend on guns when you still don't have even a sleeping bag.
 

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Re: no, she doesn't, punks. :)

andy said:
I HAVE a North Face, 0 degree bag, but I aint stupid enough to "think" that it's a viable part of a BOB. My nurse friend sent it to me, when I was living in my van. It also rode in the truck with me, when I was driving the Rockies. It stays in the back of my van, but it's much too heavy, bulky, fragile, ONE use, water-soakable, tearable, stuffing-losable, etc for inclusion in a realistic shtf bag. Not everybody is stupid enough to STAY where it's cold, dummies.
Fragile? You talking favorably about mylar and you bitch about the fragility of a North Face sleeping bag??

I've been in cold climates a lot, for extended periods, but I've spent a great portion of my life in those 'warmer' climates that you long for. I currently live in one of the warmest valleys, year around average, in the entire USA.

I've also lived on the Gulf of Mexico, in the tropics such as in Latin America, the Caribbean, Polynesia, etc.

Your sleeping bag statement shows that you're high and are in for one hell of a shock.

You also don't seem realize just how the warmer areas of this country get cold, nor do you realize just how crowded the the more hospitable 'warm' areas are. Warm areas also have more disease, incests, etc.

As for cold, your body adapts. You THINK it's warm in the winter by looking on the news and comparing it to where you're living, but if you're USED TO THE WARMTH, which you have to be to survive the summer, then the winter is still cold enough, from your new perspective, to do you in from exposure unless you're protected.

And no, you ain't commuting unless, maybe, you have a sailboat. If the land conditions are like you're hoping they'll be, then you'll get whacked if you try that much travel or you'll be physically unable to do it (distances, time, your advancing age, etc).
 
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