andy said:only the carbide wire-core penetrating. There is no way it pierces a car engine block. That's all bs. Regular lead core 308 ball doesn't penetratemuch more than half as much metal, either, if any. that's all pure bs.
A search for "engine block" shows gunkids post in this thread as the only return.Hard Ball said:" The issue is 308 BSer's CLAIMING that 308 shoots THRU engine blocks, as in able to harm a guy using such as cover."
Post links proving that any member of this forum ever posted that.
Except that you haven't put an effective argument together.andy said:half thru aint harming the guy using it as cover, and 308 ball has NO penetrator core. u pos's claim all the TIME that 308 offers so MUCH in the way of more USEFUL penetration than does the 223. Well, PLENTY of things stop 308's, a LOT of which you have no IDEA about. So you shoot and shoot and shoot, at what you can't see, run out of ammo, and have to shitcan your clunker 308.![]()
Guess your reloading skills stink. I have no problem using 30cal M2AP bullets in my 300WM loads, that's a 1/2 MOA gun bub.In 1975, I pulled some 3006 AP bullets, loaded them into 308's, fired in my Match M1A, got wonderful 4" groups at 50 yds, when a hasty "check" with 308 ball got 1.5". The acceptance standards for such ammo in WW2 was 10" at 100yds, since it was mainly to be fired from belt feds, mounted in fighter planes, for use in strafing convoys., Yeay, some of it is 1.5 MOA, but that doesn't mean that the stuff YOU have aint got PLENTY of the crap grade stuff mixed in with it. It was hard to get the carbide wire dead center in the lead core, ya see.
Andy, it's a known fact that every rifle has a preffered load, meaning, this case lenght, that powder at x-charge weight and one specific bullet weight. Maybe your rifle simply would not shoot accurately with that bullet.andy said:the above SHOULD read that I drove the Ford Van, straight 6 cylinder TWENTY miles with one rod blown, and no oil left in the engine, not 2 miles. So your bs about 3006 hits being LIKELY to stop an engine is just that bs. Sure, stop it EVENTUALLY, after 30-40 miles of travel. Of WHAT advantage is THAT to a survivalist, hmm?
In 1975, I pulled some 3006 AP bullets, loaded them into 308's, fired in my Match M1A, got wonderful 4" groups at 50 yds, when a hasty "check" with 308 ball got 1.5". The acceptance standards for such ammo in WW2 was 10" at 100yds, since it was mainly to be fired from belt feds, mounted in fighter planes, for use in strafing convoys., Yeay, some of it is 1.5 MOA, but that doesn't mean that the stuff YOU have aint got PLENTY of the crap grade stuff mixed in with it. It was hard to get the carbide wire dead center in the lead core, ya see.