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And yet another neat looking firearm that us poor peons in the "Live Free or Die" USA will probably never be able to lay our hands on:


PP-2000 less spare magazine; insert at left shows standard 9x19mm ball and 7N31 armour piercing ammo, compatible with PP-2000


PP-2000 as displayed at Interpolytech-2004 exhibition in Moscow; note spare magazine inserted at the rear of the gun to serve as a shoulder support.
photo by Gleb Androsov

Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: ~ 1.5 kg
Length (stock closed/open): 300 / 507 mm
Barrel length: 182 mm
Rate of fire: ~ 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 20 or 40 rounds
Effective range: 50-100 meters

The PP-2000 is the latest development of the famous Instrument Design Bureau (KBP) from Tula, Russia. It has been first displayed on public in 2004, although the patent for its layout has been filed in 2001 and issued in 2003. So far it is not issued to any troops but offered for all interested domestic and foreign Law Enforcement and Military users.
The main "niche" for PP-2000 is a personal defense weapon for non-infantry military personnel, or as close quarter combat weapon for special forces and special law enforcement teams. As such, it is a compact weapon with as few parts as possible for enhanced reliability, simplified maintenance and low cost. Also, it is designed to fire any standard 9x19mm "ball" (FMJ) ammunition, as well as +P+ class 7N31 armour piercing ammunition of Russian origin. When loaded with 7N31 ammo, PP-2000 offers enhanced penetration against body armor, while maintaining stopping power against "soft targets", which is believed to be superior to foreign small-caliber rivals, like 5.7mm FN P90 or 4.6mm H&K MP-7.

The PP-2000 is a conventional blowback operated submachine gun, and it is believed to be fired from closed bolt for enhanced accuracy. The bolt is telescoped around the rear part of the barrel; front part of the bolt is exposed above the barrel and is used to cock (charge) weapon by pressing back its checkered front face. The receiver / housing is made from polymer as a single unit with pistol grip and trigger guard. Trigger guard is enlarged and its front part is shaped to provide front hand grip. the magazine housing is located inside the pistol grip; Housing for spare magazine is located at the rear end of the receiver, and, when inserted, spare magazine is used as a crude shoulder support (buttstock). Safety / fire mode selector is conveniently located at the left side of the receiver, above the pistol grip.
 

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Clever design. It looks like it would be easy to handle and I like the idea of the spare mag serving as a buttstock. Wonder how acurate it is at 50m. Rate of fire at 600rpm sounds a little high though.

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You know,if we(gun owners)would get off of collective arses & push hard enough I believe that we could get a few executive orders changed & have a chance for some really neat toys like that.Like that kool little zip gun that is.

& no,I don't have a plan.:)
 

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Actually the entire concent of "executive orders" rankles my nerves. This basically puts the president of the USA in the position of having dictatorship level powers, which I really don't think the Constitution would have willingly granted. Certainly appears to sidestep the protections of the division of power designed into our government by that document. But then again, there are other flaws in the Constitution that are most certainly biting us in the butt right now as well.....
 

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Beats me. It may have been that site or another one. I was doing keyword searches for something else and found a couple of images that I thought were interesting. But I didn't take note of where I was at the time. I just tried to go to that site and couldn't so I can't even tell if it looks familiar to me.

BTW, I don't allow images within the signature area. Sorry but I am going to have to remove yours. This is just to keep the level of distraction down while people are trying to read the text in the actual messages. This doesn't look bad with a single message, but when you have a string of replies with the same repeating image being displayed in the signature area of one of the posters, it gets old REAL fast. Hope you understand my reasoning behind this.
 
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