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The pre 64 Model 70 has such a great reputation - "The Rifleman's Rifle". The Rem 700 seems to be the almost universal choice for sniper work. Both excellent in their own way.

Has anyone owned and used both so that they can give a side-by-side comparison on their strengths and weaknesses?

I know that the old model was discontinued in 1964 because it was so expensive to make but now, what with CNC machining, they have brought back the classic model.

Can anybody comment on the pre 64 compared to the Mod 70 Classic?

I confess that I have a real hankering for a pre 64 just because of its reputation for quality and the nostalgia value. Only problem is that one of those fellas - a really good specimen - costs $1000+ around here. Ouch!

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for WHAT use, anyway? When u aint

yet got (and almost certainly never WILL have) realisitic defensive ability with hand to hand, pistol, much less auto rifle, you got time and money to dick around with bolt actions? Such bs is WHY you will never have real defensive ability.
 

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I'm a Winchester fan

I much prefer the "push feed" Wins to Rems for tactical rifles. The Winchester bolt field strips without tools in the field and has a better extracter system that can be replaced without rivets and anvils.

The Win three position saftey is far superior to the Rem as it actually blocks the firing pin and allows the bolt to be cycled with the saftey engaged.

Something else of note, is that the Win mag box and bolt stop can be modified rather easily to allow the seating out of the heavier bullets with less presure.

The "classic" controlled feed Win action is considered the fasted and smoothest of the bolt actions by High Power shooters and most match rifles are bulit on this action. I have bulit two scout rifles on these actions they work great.

I don't have much intrest in "hunting" rifles, they bore me to tears.

Teuf,
 

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Raider said:
The pre 64 Model 70 has such a great reputation - "The Rifleman's Rifle". The Rem 700 seems to be the almost universal choice for sniper work. Both excellent in their own way.

Has anyone owned and used both so that they can give a side-by-side comparison on their strengths and weaknesses? ...

RIKA :)
I have used them side-by-side. Both rifles are very capable.

If you are interested in long range, precision shooting, you will find more "toys, bells and whistles" available for the Rem 700.

If you plan on deer hunting with it, I would take the Winchester. I have shot surplus FMJ through a well-used pre-64 with an original Weaver KV, 2 3/4x - 5x scope at 100 yards into 1 1/2 inches. In my opinion, the pre-64 is every bit the rifle that folks say it is.
 

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I have a .30-06 Remington M700 and my usual shooting partner has a pre 64 Winchester M70 in .30-06. Both are excellent choices, both perform as required, so I guess it comes down to personal preference.
 

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I agree with Garand... it's mainly personal preference. I love shooting my M70 but the 700 has easier to get replacement parts if anything ever breaks. That is about the only concern I really have.

Mike
 
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