at 5 yds, with a 30 oz 9mm compact, in 4 seconds, is easy, if you are smooth, and a bit of dryfire practice sufficed to make an old hand at such things QUITE smooth. That left 4 seconds for 10 more shots, and 4 target-switches, which is nothing much, given the 12"x14" size of the C zone, and 10" size of the A zone circle. Between life fire and drysnap practice, I'd had at least 1/4million repetitions of the 'moves' of the ccw draw and reload. So no big deal to deliver same in 4 seconds, after years of no practice. It's getting the same thing done in 3 seconds or less that takes a lot of work. Just because you lames don't know-care about what a diff time makes doesn't mean that SOME aren't aware of the facts of the matter.