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andmost N Guard men aint COMING. :) Nothing to PAY them with, and they will HAVE to stay home, caring for their families. What's left of the military will BARELY be able to guard their BASES, the hot shot pols and celebs and wealthy, and a FEW strategic places. For a month or 2, they MIGHT be able to make a raid or 2, now and then, then the lack of fuel, maintenance, and morale will put the kibosh on THAT bs, too.
 

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You really don't understand what the US FedGov is capable of, for better or for worse, nor the preps they have made for such a situation to ensure their own survival.

For instance, YOU might be out of fuel in two months, but the FedGov forces won't.

What are you expecting to cause such a major calamity? Nuclear war? A general 'everyone just goes crazy one day' scenario simply doesn't cut it.
 

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yes they will, I PROMISE. :) No, a sudden outlawing of autorifles. I've TOLD you MANY times, you are just too stupid to read it, that's all.
 

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the paper money will be WORTHLESS, cause the economy is going into the TOILET, so fast it will make your head spin.
 

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the paper money will be WORTHLESS, cause the economy is going into the TOILET, so fast it will make your head spin.
Unfortunately, I have to agree that we will see a financial crisis worse than anything we have ever seen. However, no one can predict precisely how the people will act. I'm certain there will be functioning communities sprinkled throughout the chaos.

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Only in your fantasy !!!
 

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yes they will, I PROMISE. :) No, a sudden outlawing of autorifles. I've TOLD you MANY times, you are just too stupid to read it, that's all.
Yes, I know you've said it many times, and each subsequent time was just as silly as the prior.

Stupid? You believe is a fantasy and you call others 'stupid'?

So, describe by what mechanism the USA will just disintegrate without, say, a massive nuclear war or devastating biological plauge (aka 'The Stand')?

You're basing your hopes upon unrealistic scenarios that seem to be torn from the pages of cheap, 80's era, post-apocalypse fiction.

This isn't a cheesy novel and you're not John Thomas Rourke. The real world won't react in the way you describe it, and that is a fact.
 

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If I told everyone I was "Smarter, Taller, Richer and Better-Looking" than everyone else, I do not think this would make it so. I will always be a 5'5.5" 165(Hefty, but not fat), broke man of average apperance, and screaming about it will not change that. There is no need to try and convince us about your fantasies, they will be very hard to bring about, and even harder to survive. Remember the "Monkey Paw Wishes" and always be careful, and thoughtful about what You wish for as You might get jusat what You wished for.
 

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ok, when u r all SCARED to buy any food that aint in a metal can, and billions of $ are sitting on store shelves, ROTTING, remember what I said. When the Alaska pipeline is cut, in 2 places, and a mile of it is solid asphalt some winter, when trains can't run because of angle iron welded in mid-bridge, when CA is a smoking rubble, you will know I was right. :) It wont take a nuke. It will only take a dozen guys doing the right things.
 

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I think you're going to find that any effort like that will be like punching sand on the beach if you want to collapse civilization.

You may cause some misery, but you won't cause the apocalypse like you want.

What can cause an apocalypse is an economic collapse with a plauge and WWIII. THOSE are likely to happen. In fact, they will, probably along with another Civil War.

But THAT will be out of your hands and it'll still leave alive far more people that you are hoping for.
 

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See? More criminal activity. Funny thing is, if anyone took him seriously, he'd have been picked up for just SAYING it, these days. But, they know he's a joke, big talker that just gets on his hands and knees and whimpers when big brother decides it's time to beat his @$$.
 

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ok, when u r all SCARED to buy any food that aint in a metal can, and billions of $ are sitting on store shelves, ROTTING, remember what I said. When the Alaska pipeline is cut, in 2 places, and a mile of it is solid asphalt some winter, when trains can't run because of angle iron welded in mid-bridge, when CA is a smoking rubble, you will know I was right. :) It wont take a nuke. It will only take a dozen guys doing the right things.
you're right, gosh, damaging the alaska pipeline will stop all those tankers from coming in to port from the middle east and south america.

Cutting the pipe line will cause the strategic reserves to suddenly evaporate, without warning.

Derailing trains will rally everyone to your side.

Food? it'll take them about three days to make all non-canned goods penstock, and they will control the access to them.

Workers will be checked, shipments will be checked - they have toxin detectors that can detect poisons and identify them in seconds. stuff posioned at teh source will be identified, and once that happens the people who did it will be easy to find.

You will be able to reduce LA to smoking rubble.

Gosh, why didn't we see this before?

we should just make Gunkid the king now and save ourselves the trouble!

I think you need to get an adjustment in your meds.

There's a whole bunch of reasons your little fantasy won't work, and you would simply deny that some of them are even possible.

Lets just say, you might even succeed in damaging the pipe line, though the instant a problem occurs, the pipe is sealed before and after the place where the problem happens, and they know where it is within a few meters within a second of it happening.

you might even get a train.

But you wouldn't survive long enough to do anything else aftwards.

Argue all you want, but you would be caught. And you'd probably never see a jail or a courthouse.

Good Rambo fantasy though. It's very entertaining.

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Due to lobbying by Alaska's governor, they changed Federal law and now a LOT of the Alaskan pipeline oil has been regularly heading for Japan.

There are a couple of achilles heels in the USA that I don't recall if GK has mentioned yet that would hurt the country bad - those giant mega-transformers. There are only few hundred in the entire country. They are all made to order and they take a while to build.

Right now in AZ we had one catch fire, and has taken them forever to make a new one and ship the humongous thing here. When it gets here it'll take three weeks just to mount and hook up.

Oddly enough, just as the new one was on it's way, yesterday morning another one caught fire.
 

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If the FIT ever does HIT the SHAN, there will be probably fifty people gearing up to take MELVIN out.

MELVINS blood and guts posts, have set him for the fall.

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Gunkid, please provide a DETAILED kit list of the kit you have ready to go if the balloon ever went up right NOW!
 
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