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Which leaves you 30 caliber fools footslogging along til somebody wastes a .22lr rd on your stupid asses.
 

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Yet, they routinely give their guys packs weighing in excess of 200lbs for missions.

Of course the concept of layering gear and dropping gear when it is time to shoot and scoot is lost on you.

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You know nothing about the SAS and their techniques and tactics. You have just made another stupid post.
 
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I"ve read everything available, dumbass. YOu obviously have not. :) Unlike your stupid old ass, those guys are for real, not just footsloggingalongside the truck convoy,putting in their time until they can go home.
 

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The SAS doesn't say 40lbs max load for trekking, you idiot.

If you plan on spending much actually time running and gunning SHTF you'll be dead anyway, Mr I have only only 84 centerfire rounds and there are 4 different types mixed in your magazines.

Running and gunning doesn't allow time to stop and scavange off of anyone you've killed, you don't know who is coming to the sound of all the gunshots. You're the one that claims gunfire will draw people from miles around.

We won't talk about how fast running and gunning will destroy your cheap pathetic homemade "can" of course a Gemtech or other proper supressor will still be in great shape unlike a wire screen packed POS.
 

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Survival is NOT a "run and gun op"
 
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These people are ordinary infantry, you can't even keep up to them!
 

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I"ve read everything available, dumbass. YOu obviously have not. :) Unlike your stupid old ass, those guys are for real, not just footsloggingalongside the truck convoy,putting in their time until they can go home.
What dumbkid is saying is he has read everything available on some web board were people without a clue post. Anyone with a lick of sense knows 'everything available' would be one hell of alot of reading.

Hasher is right, what a fuckwit.
 
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Do yourself a favor andy, read Bravo Two Zero. 200lb bergens, thats not including the belt kit, M72 LAW, grenades (both launched and thrown) or water each man carried. And if you want to talk about run and gun, thats the book to read.
 

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I relize you may not know what a bergen is, it is the type of pack they carried.

If the book is too tough for your to read, there is a movie version too...

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Garand why did you post those pics? You have brought back terrible memories of fifteen and twenty mile humps I had to do in the Marines. What really sucked was that I was an O341 mortarman. We had just a tad bit more gear to carry, and there sure as hell wasnt any running and gunning with that stuff for long distances. The only time you need to run and gun is when you are trying to save a friend, take a postition or getting the hell out of dodge.
 

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Been there, seen it, done it! I spent 2 1/2 years humping an 81mm mortar!
 

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Been there, seen it, done it! I spent 2 1/2 years humping an 81mm mortar!
Did it at least kiss you back?
And women accuse men of having no stamina. . .2 1/2 years!

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I've been told that it takes quite a man to hump a mortar. Which MM mortar did you carry Garand? Those fellas are HEAVY.

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81mm of course! 60mm's were just toooooooooooo small.
 
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ASS I said, Gun kid knows absolutely nothing about the SAS and their techniques and tactics. He has just made another stupid post.
 

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ASS I said, Gun kid knows absolutely nothing about the SAS and their techniques and tactics. He has just made another stupid post.
Actually, you could have ended your sentence right before the word "about" and you would have been pretty much right on.

He steps on his pecker every time he posts this nonsense about what people carry on the backs...

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I"ve read everything available, dumbass. YOu obviously have not. :) Unlike your stupid old ass, those guys are for real, not just footsloggingalongside the truck convoy,putting in their time until they can go home.
I've met some of them. You're an idiot,
 
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