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Feeling spunky and in the mood to learn from you fine folks so I say lets play a game of scenarios so that we can evaluate each other with CONSTRUCTIVE critisism and maybe refine each other a little.
I will start with the scenario and we can build from there or start from new scenarios as each one of us gets ideas.



First scenario:
Its post SHTF and you have decided to go it alone against all better judgment.You find yourself alone,its pitch black at night with no moon to illuminate the area as you walk through the thick treelines and underbrush.You are wandering along in unfamiliar territory when all of a sudden you feel a small amount of resistance on your upper torso and WOOOOoooooooshhh,..oh yeah,you just hit a trip line...,its that sound of an illumination flare going off climbing high above your head telling the whole area that someone or something just sent it skywards and your presence is now known...seconds later the night sky is now glowing bright as well as everything around you,shadows are on the move from the flares slow decent making everything appear to be moving all around you.

So what do you do?
 

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Run in the direction i came from for 2-3miles, and sleep in the trees until daybreak. I'd don't like the idea of being in unknown territory, especially at night. Best to find a safe place to stay until morning.
 

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Freeze in a stable, non-human position until the flare burns out or decends below the tree line. Make sure that your head is tilted forward to let your hat cover your face. When the flare is no longer a factor, [email protected] on exactly the same path that you entered. Any other path may contain hazards. The only known, safe path is the one that you have just traveled.

Deer and other animals set off flares too. Hopefully it will be dismissed as an animal, at least until morning.
 

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GBullet said:
Freeze in a stable, non-human position until the flare burns out or decends below the tree line. Make sure that your head is tilted forward to let your hat cover your face. When the flare is no longer a factor, [email protected] on exactly the same path that you entered. Any other path may contain hazards. The only known, safe path is the one that you have just traveled.

Deer and other animals set off flares too. Hopefully it will be dismissed as an animal, at least until morning.
I agree, though I'd consider going prone, just in case someone decides to send a couple rounds your way.

Then afterwards do a 180 and di di out of there.

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GBullet said:
Deer and other animals set off flares too. Hopefully it will be dismissed as an animal, at least until morning.
Good call GBULLET
Deer would most likely be the only animal besides a man that would have set this flare off as in the scenario the trip line was upper torso.Keeping "some"of your retreats/camps perimeter alarms/devices at higher levels keeps the small critters from setting them off.
 

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I dunno. What were YOU doing wandering around in the middle of the night that might worry someone? The fact that they used the tripwire to send off a flare instead of a grenade means they didn't want an interloper dead immediately. I think a lot of what you should do next depends on what you were doing and where you thought you were going.
 

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What GBullet said. I think thats what they teach you in the classes.

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Stop, Kneel, Close firing eye, Wait until flare burns out/drops into tree line, listen very carefully, withdraw at least 1000m, dtermine alternate route around occupied area.
Or turn around and haul arse back the way You came.
 

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Another scenario.

You are out in a lightly wooded area about 3 miles from your home base. You are armed with your battle rifle and handgun carrying a light ammo load and a day pack because you don't expect to stay overnight. Perhaps returning from visiting friends.

At 11:00AM you are confronted by 4 strangers armed with AK's and SKS's who command you to freeze. Distance is 75 yards.

What do you do?

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define a "light ammo load", thank you.
 

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Oops sorry. Not enough to fight a war.

M1A, FAL, G3 - 4 20rd mags in pouches. One in rifle. 100 rds.

M1 Garand. 10 clips in carrier. 1 in rifle. 3 clips in pockets. 122rds.

AR15/M16. 3 30rd. mags in pouch. One in rifle. 120 rds.

Pretend you're armed with one of the above.

I am assuming that a man wouldn't be going around with a bolt rifle without a partner with an auto rifle.

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Honestly, I don't know.:( Realistically, there can be any number of correct options. Trying to shoot them is out of the question because they probably already have me trained in their sights, and if I try to sprint for cover they could still get me.


Wait, how about this:

Let them get in close, grab one of the guys at knife point and use him as a human shield as I make my escape.
 

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This one is harder to answer, Do I have commo to the Home AO?
Do I have the potential to get back up from home/warn them I'm coming in with "company" following?. Do I have a place to make a "stand" and a radio call from nearby?. Do they look healthy enough to "follow my leader" as I run cross country(5K or more).
Do I have enough low growth cover to break their visual track and circle around them in a ambush manuver? Sorry too many variables to guess with what I'm given here, but I would possibly go with open fire(mad minute), break contact, alert home, haul arse, return with back-up
 

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Sorry guys. Perhaps I asked an unrealistic question. Not having been to the infantry schools and special training puts me at a disadvantage. Even to the point of asking questions.

I am and probably will be a learner for the rest of my life.

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I have service in 3 branches, and learned to "Shoot, Move and Communicate" long ago. I liked the scenario idea but it was missing some key points. The most important thing is the textbook answer is not always the real world right one. "I am and probably will be a learner for the rest of my life" that is the most intellegent thing/attitude to keep, as soon as You know everything it gets boring. If we all knew as much as we though we did we wouldn't need to type on this or any other board, because no one would need to swap info.
keep hunting/asking/learning/questing/ because as soon as you stop its bound to get boring fast.
 

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Damn tough one

IMHO
I would have to say my mind would be going like Half elf described as I would try to talk to them real quick and let them know Im not alone all the while reaching for my radio(that is carried with me on patrols) with one hand,the other ready to fire my MBR and scanning left and right for quick cover.
Rika,you are viscious with this game,..LOL...I like it.
 

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I'd probably freeze and see what they had to say. They've probably got me dead to rights and any sudden move probably means getting cut down.
 

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I'll offer an answer based on how my mind works - not on training. I would immediately be scanning for cover or at least some form of concealment. "Would shout "What do you want!". They had better answer quick.

Next move would depend on them. I would have to consider anybody in my AO a probable enemy.

Are they holding their weapons firing squad style at their shoulder or down at their sides or up a little above waist level (did we catch each other by surprise). If firing squad style, I might drop my weapon though I would be tempted to shoot. Probably dead anyway. If down at their sides or relaxed, I would probably fire a long burst while I ran for cover (would never carry my rifle slung on shoulder). The surprise element. After that I would try to disengage and disappear.

Extremely chancey meeting any way you look at it.

Feel free to criticize.

RIKA
 

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Good point on sling

Rika,..slings are for transporting a weapon IMO for a non hostile enviroment,other than that the weapon should be held and accessable at a split moment.
Good scenario,made me think!

Whos next?
 
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