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There seems to be some interest in ballistic gelatin. Here are the basic steps of mixing it without the need of a double boiler:

1) Pick a large mixing container and some smaller, appropriate sized containers to be the molds. The molds should be at least 5"x5"x12"; "breadbox" sized containers.

2) For each pound of gelatin powder, use one gallon and ten ounces of cold water

3) Put the cold water in the mixing container.

4) Pour the gelatin into the water in the mixing container.

5) Gently stir.

6) Let it sit in the refrigerator for two hours.

7) Run some hot water in your bath tub. Stick a thermometer in it and keep the temperature between 95F and 100F.

8) Place the gelatin filled mixing container in the warm water filled bath tub and gently stir the gelatin.

9) Pour the gelatin into the molds.

10) Stick the molds in your refrigerator for two or three days.

11) You can calibrate it with a BB if you like, but it's not necessary for fun.

12) Now just serve and shoot!
 

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if u DONT calibrate it, any results you get are even MORE meaningless than if you do make it match the jello that the "pro's:" use. I never found it to even come close to what happens with the bullet in flesh, either expansion wise, or penetration wise. You might as well shoot at some mud, and save all the hassle and expense.
 

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Calibration is a complex issue. Everybody says calibrate to match the standard for a BB's penetration into 10 percent gelatin. Yet the U.S. Army has long used 20 percent gelatin.

Then there are other issues that few ballistic experimenters bother to address. Take bones for example. Bones have been simulated with wooden dowels, real bone, glass rods in PVC and polycarbonate rods, among others. By the way, real bone doesn't work because dead bone (white bone) has different characteristics than live bone (green bone).

Ultimately, ballistic gelatin is a learning tool. It may be a great learning tool, but there is a lot of variation in real life.
 

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with truly high velocity prefrags (big segment prefrags) hitting ribs or the sternum HELPS, because you get the BONE frags added to the mix, and they tear up flesh and contribute to causing shock. The Split Nose always frags, at 2200+ fps, and nearly always does so at 2000fps. It's just a question of shooting enough animals with such bullets and loads, and finding OUT how deeply you have to slit the nose and deepen the grease-groove, to GUARANTEE such fragging of the bullet. If you dont get fragging in flesh, at such speeds, you deepen the cuts into the bullets, that's all.
 

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223 fan said:
with truly high velocity prefrags (big segment prefrags) hitting ribs or the sternum HELPS, because you get the BONE frags added to the mix, and they tear up flesh and contribute to causing shock. ...
Oh, I agree. If a bullet shatters bone it multiplies the severity of the wound. Gelatin alone cannot account for this effect.
 

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GB - Thanks for letting me know that you and Eurochick are now "serving" ballistic gelatin. I have eaten my last meal with you people.

Jon
 

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TODD 3465 said:
Do you put Cool Whip on top?

Clarify - on top of the geletin, or the Eurochick?

Naaaaaaah! We can't go there, can we? :blush:
 

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Draping one or two layers of denim cloth across the face of the gelatin block to simulaye clothing is often done in ballistoc laboratory testing.
 

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Teufelhund said:
How bought a recipe for "Jiggler Shots" GB, we have one we like with tequila, lime juice and lime jello!

Teuf,

Nah. He has good bourbon - REALLY good bourbon in his house. We're good to go ... as is!
 
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