55 gr ball, repeat with good sp load, and SEE if you "think" ball is so great at transferring energy. Repeat on some animals. The sp is FAR better, in nearly every instance. A good 223 sp virtually blows a chuck in half. It blows about 2" diameter holes in feral dogs' chests, too. 223 sp is one BAD mf.
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·That's a real bad'un if you are attacked by a chuck. Now get a REAL gun,a M1A 7.62 with light sp and it will CUT THAT DOGS' CHEST IN TO!andy said:
Stupekid, a 11 CAR isn't worth sh*it past 50 yards. Just to much velocity is lost. It's a pos like that cut up Star of yours. Junk.
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u r just an ignorant punk. I can easily
get a 60 gr sp up over 2800 fps in 11". It still has 2750 fps and 1000 ft lbs left at 50m, dumbass. U read too much bs on the Net, punk. I have the chrono figures. That load will still GUT you at 150m, and you wont do <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> after it hits you in the chest at 200m, either.
The POINT IS, stupid, that the short 223 has PLENTY of power. more is just a waste. It's a wasted effort to lug around more wt, it's STUPID to not have a concealable rifle, and a can, and a .22 unit. all are WAY too valuable assets to be without. but you go ahead and BE as stupid as the rest of them, dumbass.
get a 60 gr sp up over 2800 fps in 11". It still has 2750 fps and 1000 ft lbs left at 50m, dumbass. U read too much bs on the Net, punk. I have the chrono figures. That load will still GUT you at 150m, and you wont do <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> after it hits you in the chest at 200m, either.
The POINT IS, stupid, that the short 223 has PLENTY of power. more is just a waste. It's a wasted effort to lug around more wt, it's STUPID to not have a concealable rifle, and a can, and a .22 unit. all are WAY too valuable assets to be without. but you go ahead and BE as stupid as the rest of them, dumbass.
2" diameter holes? I don't think so. I've shot deer, beaver and nutria with .22 and .24 inch centerfire bullets at 3000-3100 fps and never saw a 2" hole.andy said:
I have never personally seen a 55 grain .223 SP that exited a deer. They usually stop inside.
Other folks here have more experience than I do with .223 on deer. Maybe they can share their thoughts?
i didn't SAY on a deer. can u READ?
U DONT NEED EXIT WOUNDS on men. You dont WANT the wasted energy. you dont CARE if there's a blood trail. what you want, up close at least, is an INSTANT incapacitation. The kind you get with varmint type bullets, on coyotes.
U DONT NEED EXIT WOUNDS on men. You dont WANT the wasted energy. you dont CARE if there's a blood trail. what you want, up close at least, is an INSTANT incapacitation. The kind you get with varmint type bullets, on coyotes.
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I don't think I've seen a single 2" exit wound from a .223 on a coyote.
Now, using my .280 or my .338 and the exit wounds are LARGER than 2"
As far as the depositing of energy, lets just say Fackler did a lot of research on the subject, and his results differ from GK's.
I like a nice big wound channel all the way through a critter, at least for any that I don't care about the hide.
But, you gotta decide for yourself on round and weapon selection.
I personally wouldn't want to hamper myself with a weapon that required handloads to make up for having too short a barrel. But, I don't intend to spend my time abushing people or playing rambo.
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My experience on coyotes is pretty much like your's. And I don't use ball ammo. I like to use either the speer tnt's or the nosler ballistic tips.GBullet said:
I don't think I've seen a single 2" exit wound from a .223 on a coyote.
Now, using my .280 or my .338 and the exit wounds are LARGER than 2"
As far as the depositing of energy, lets just say Fackler did a lot of research on the subject, and his results differ from GK's.
I like a nice big wound channel all the way through a critter, at least for any that I don't care about the hide.
But, you gotta decide for yourself on round and weapon selection.
I personally wouldn't want to hamper myself with a weapon that required handloads to make up for having too short a barrel. But, I don't intend to spend my time abushing people or playing rambo.
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In another thread you babbled about ballistic charts, and were probably actually right (anybody can be right once in a while). Better check some tables for your 60 grain pellet. Hell of a BC. I don't believe it, not 2750fps at 54 yards, 2 feet, 1/2 inch.223 fan said:
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And stupekid, if you are going to be hinding out in days and stumbling around at night, why you need a 'concealable' rifle? Stupkid, the CAR isn't concealable and you know it. All one has to do is get a pair of logs about the size of the CARs to main parts and any dumb<font color=red>[**censored**]</font> like you could see that.
Showed you up again, stupekid. Your fos as usual.
stupekid you can get a 110 gr .308 way way past 3000 fps from a 18 inch .308 battle rifle and you WILL get 2 inch holes! It will have well over 2000 foot/lb of enery at 50 yards. Makes that CAR look like the <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> it is! And that more power translates to more power at longer ranges (past the 50 yards stupekid can hit). If you need a .22, get a good .22 pistol and stop f*u*c*k*i*n*g up your ONLY rilfe you will have.223 fan said:
And stupekid, if you are going to be hinding out in days and stumbling around at night, why you need a 'concealable' rifle? Stupkid, the CAR isn't concealable and you know it. All one has to do is get a pair of logs about the size of the CARs to main parts and any dumb<font color=red>[**censored**]</font> like you could see that.
Showed you up again, stupekid. Your fos as usual.
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