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andy said:
Shoot them with good 223 sp loads, and they are knocked on their backs, and they CAN'T get up again.
Right. Knocked all the way over 180 degrees. Just like a hit to the shoulder on a movie with a 9mm will throw a guy back 5' and then he can fight with that arm 2 minutes later. Right. Is this another butt-rape-prison-fantasy?

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