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I have shot a few different shotguns over the years from .410 single shots to a 10 gauge shoulder buster. Single shot .410 was the first shotgun I ever fired, and I used it to go dove hunting in Nevada many moons ago. All the other guys had semi autos, only me with a single shot and a small, really small bore for a shotgun. I did well thoguh, I shot as many as anyone else and was tied for high take. It was an experiences I'll never forget. I figured I got lucky, but over the years I realize that I have an affinity for the shotgun.

As I see it: Semi-Autos are nice for all around guns, single shots make fine teaching guns and are fine for hunting if you want a challenge, side by sides to me are useless except as belly busters or a wall hanging, over and unders ok for hunting or trap and skeet, bolt action shotguns - well I never fired one of those. I find I like a pump action more than anything. Maybe that is because I have fired Remington 870s for so many years now. I used them at work in the Border Patrol, and continued with the same in Customs, and now in ICE. I have shot them now continuously for 25 years and can say the 870 is one heck of a gun. I have owned two of them, one a Wingmaster I sold because I needed money after I got married (ouch that hurts to even think about), and the other I have owned for about 16 or 17 years an 870 Express.

My 870 Express has taken a lot of abuse, and the only part s I ever needed to change were a magazine spring and follow because I lost them (don't ask - the story is too embarrassing to bring up again). Oh it did need one other part, the screw or bolt that attaches the stock to the frame. I fell a few times while hunting, each time right onto the shotgun, but it was held safely and it broke my fall, and they were hard falls. I never noticed any damage except a few dings to the wood, but when I went to refinish the wood a few years back, I noticed the screw was not coming out right - it screwed wobbly from side to side and the screw head actually was rubbing on the walls of the hole in which it was recessed as it turned. Wound up that screw/bolt was bent really bad, I think I gave it a few whacks to make it straighter and used it again, but yes it still needs replacing some day.

Good shotgun, quite handy, easy to use, easy to break down and reassemble, accurate enough if you know how to shoot it, comes to the shoulder well, points well, works well. I have used it to hunt deer, upland game birds, waterfowl, turkeys, and small game like rabbits. Have taken most of my deer with it; and it has interchangeable barrels for the other game shooting. I also used to carry it for work when we were allowed to carry personally owned long arms of the right type. I have shot trap or was it skeet with one of them when I was in the Border Patrol and I hit every one of those clay flying saucers/pigeons - not all great hits but everyone they let loose - sometimes three at once, but that was when I was in my twenties. I may have to try that again someday before I get too old.

One of these days I'll have to buy a Beretta over and under for fun, and maybe to get my son into trap and or skeet, but for now the Remington 870 is the shotgun of choice.
 

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My first shotgun was a Remington Sportsman-58. A semi auto witht he infamous polychoke, held 3 rounds 2 3/4" only -- 12 gauge. I've acquired several riot guns over the years, both Mossbergs and Remingtons. My most used gun is an 870 Police Magnum that I bought from a police trade-in. I was fairly lucky, it was a sergeant's gun and had a lot of "cruiser wear" but no ral mechanical wear. I bought a spare barrel with Rem chokes for hunting, now it does double duty.

I must confess I have a real affinity for side-bys. It might just be the cowboy aspect, but I think they feel and handle superbly. I like botht he shorty coach guns and the loooong hunting guns.

Over-unders I just don't like. It's an asthetics thing, I just think they're fugly.
 

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Good Post , Glen!

my first one was a bolt action .410 mossburg with 2 chokes/spanner wrench.

my father gave it to me for christmas when i was 11or 12, and i hunted long and hard with that .410[bagged a lot of rabbit/squirrel/some quail,

any way one pre-season football game cowboy/*******[dad was some indian okie and didn't care for anything texas] well we bet guns on the out come of the game he 'put-up a winchester62-a .22 to my .410.

all i could see was doubling my arsenal with the win by the cowboys!

yeah,riiiiggggghhhhhhttttttttt!

he laughed his a$$ off as he took my/HIS gun and locked it in his cabinet!

i had to beg use of his gun to go hunting, it was pretty crushing! :bawling:

he held that gun/bet over my head about to his dieing day!

i learned alot about profit/loss on that day!

it was probably a good thing i lost the bet as i still own both weapons

but that little.410 is in indiana with mom, along with my dallas cowboy football helmet :cool:



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But it sounds as if he let you keep using it. I think you also learned a lot about the value of things, not just in a loss/profit sought of way either - but more that somethings are not worth risking on something like a football game bet... Be happy you lost to your dad, and not to a pal who may have taken that gun away from you forever! Sounds like your dad was teaching you an important lesson indeed. I wonder do you have kids? I'll bet they learned something along those lines, or will someday, from you.
 

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something about things we hold dearly, and how valuable they were to us even though we took them for granted...
 

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i learned a hell'va lesson.

yeah! he lightend up in a couple of years, he bought me a model#37 winchester.12ga. single. and later a mod#60 .22 marlin.

i guess he figured it was part of my job as a kid ,to bring home small game in season, the older he got the less he felt like 'busting the brush' going hunting.

i have no children to speak of[there might be a couple of off color pups throwed,with full mustauches, ha! mere speculation]

but when i left home the little.410 stayed. it taught me that a deal was a deal, you fall back on that[your word] and you will NOT ever amount to nothing[ his words,yes he KNEW what he was doing!]

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My first shotgun was a Remington 870 Wingmaster 12ga., Dad didn't believe in babying me as I was 18 at the time. I later added a 18in riot gun barrel as well as an modified barrel. I bought a Remington 1100 LT 20ga later. Use both for hunting - mostly for crows. Rabbits and squirrels fall to the rifle and handgun. Have won a few bets using the riot gun barrel on clay birds.

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My first was a Remington sportsman 12 auto.My "dad" gave it to me at my HS graduation.

I now have a few Mossys' & a "coach" gun.I don't use any of them much.I like handguns too much I guess.
 

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84 C4, were they fairly recent Remingtons? I'v eheard their QC is in a bit of a slump lately.

I really prefer the tang safety on the Mossberg, but wish they'd use a steel receiver like on the Remingtons. All my Remingtons are also much smoother than the corresponding Mossberg.

It's too bad Ithaca doesn't have the tang safety, with the bottom eject, it'd be the perfect ambidextrous shotgun.
 

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84 C4, were they fairly recent Remingtons? I'v eheard their QC is in a bit of a slump lately.

Don't know anything about the 870 I fired, but my 597 jams virtually every other round (and I clean that thing constantly, and I don't use more oil than I should be using), and my 710, well, I'm afraid to shoot that ever since I found out they had a problem with the bolt cracking. The last thing I need is a piece of hardened steel in my face.

The 870 doesn't feel right in my hand, and it didn't load a couple shells properly. Maybe I'm just not "Remington Compatible." It was the 18" version with synthetic stock (not a pistol grip), in case anyone was wondering.

Remington's short comings are the main reason I'm going into the surplus rifle game.
 

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No biggie, I know plenty of people who don't get along with Remingtons, others don't get along with Mossbergs, Winchester shotguns don't seem to like me. . .oh well.

Glad you're getting into the surplus rifle game though, you'll find there's some fine rifles out there that put current-production factory rifles to shame for a fraction of the cost.
 

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i had an 870, before i moved to a 1100, i liked it very much ,but it was set up with choate f.a. l. pistol grip stock,18"tube,2rd mag extention.

well me being a left handeR, i developed a bad habit of canting the action to the right while cycling the action when in a fast excitied state[quail hunting] and 'I' would jam the feeding by canting the action while jacking the slide, at about a 45 degree angle, well knowing 'I' could do it fast shooting 'birds flying away' i knew if it was at B.G.'s at conctact , it would happen then also.

MAG-88 posted a link concerning g.crazy jr[cz52]
they were selling police trade-in's at $129 wood stock/20"tube.

i would have one before the sun set,if i found them in one of my gun shops racks, around here.


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i would have one before the sun set,if i found them in one of my gun shops racks, around here.
Good luck. I told the shop I do most of my shopping at call me if they got any trade-ins. They called and said they just had 30 trade-ins. I gave them my credit card #, and told them I want the best they had. By the time I got there (20 minutes later) they had 3 left besides the one they held for me.

If you want a trade in, I suggest you find out where they usually do their business and see if the shop will put you on a call list, and if they call, JUMP ON IT.
 

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thanks for the heads up, MAG

i'll do that, with my favorite shop.

b.t.w how do you/i drag just a couple of lines from a quote, with out dragging the whole thing?

i've done it once, more by mistake than anything :crap:

and don't know how i did it![advanced self taught202]


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Either hit the quote button, and delete the parts you don't want or select the part you want to quote, hit CTRL-C, then in the reply box type (left bracket)QUOTE(right bracket) then hit CTRL-V to paste the text you want quoted, followed by (left bracket)/QUOTE(right bracket)
 
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