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to shoot at flying targets, a GAME, and that's all they are "good" for. Everything else, they are quite inferior to either the pistol or the rifle.
 

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Please list in detail, your combat experience.
 

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Seems to me they're quite effective for getting a felon to give up without a fight when the cops come pointing one at him. . .
 

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to shoot at flying targets, a GAME, and that's all they are "good" for. Everything else, they are quite inferior to either the pistol or the rifle.

When Americans introduced the modern shotgun to trench warfare, during WWI, the Germans began complaining that the use of shotguns violated the rules of decency and even attempted to have them banned by the next Geneva Convention.
 

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Their value in a marine environment is unquestionable.
 

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The military uses them. Let's see, we can listen to a wannbe with no combat experience, or we can listen to the Military, the Police, and the thousands of people who keep and use shotguns. Many of these people DO have combat experience. Not a hard choice, mind you.

The CAR is for losers, and that's a fact.
 

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Please specify, "The 11" CAR is for losers", there are some people here that their geographical enviornment is suitable to an AR-15 with a longer barrel.
 

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No one pointed any shotgun's at John-Boy. Two U.S. Marshal's showed up at the door and said "let's go'. That's all it took. The second time he was arrested by PHONE. "Davis, report to your CMC, NOW!" That's all it took. No "cans" "Phoenix Arms .22 Super Guns", or jumping side kicks, just meek surrender.
 

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Garand, does any CAR have a barrel longer than 11.5 inches? I don't think the M4 is a CAR, or the 16 inch AR is a CAR, or just any other AR variant is called the "CAR".

In any case, the 11 inch CAR is for losers!
 

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No one pointed any shotgun's at John-Boy. Two U.S. Marshal's showed up at the door and said "let's go'. That's all it took. The second time he was arrested by PHONE. "Davis, report to your CMC, NOW!" That's all it took. No "cans" "Phoenix Arms .22 Super Guns", or jumping side kicks, just meek surrender.

That's, er, really pathetic.
 

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Let's not tell the Army and Marines that their 12 gage semiautos are toys for snobs.
 

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Terry G said:
No one pointed any shotgun's at John-Boy. Two U.S. Marshal's showed up at the door and said "let's go'. That's all it took. The second time he was arrested by PHONE. "Davis, report to your CMC, NOW!" That's all it took. No "cans" "Phoenix Arms .22 Super Guns", or jumping side kicks, just meek surrender.

Then why bother with any talk about E&E, guns, etc?

If the actual operational plan is immediate submission and bloodless surrender, then your main SHTF stockpile should be some cash in the bank so you can buy extra snacks and stuff while you are rotting behind bars. That and maybe a white hanky to wave while you're surrendering and some lotion so the handcuffs don't chafe.

What were the reasons for the knock and the phone call, and how much time did each visit land?

IMHO, it's be better to be broke, afoot, and sleeping under a tree down in Mexico or even someplace like Brazil than rotting in a cell. Even if you have to blend in with the poor peasents and forced to go 'native', it's still a life and you still have freedom and the potential for other opportunities.

You don't even have to go that far. Just grab a backpack with the basics and hit the rails. You know how hard it is to track and apprehend hobos? There are wanted members of the FTRA that have been unapprehended for years.
 

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Freight Train Riders of America - They are sort of like to hobos what the Hells Angels are to motorcycle riders.
 

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personally, i am wondering, who knocked you silly, and made you think shotguns are for snobs.Say an intruder is in your house, if you're a snob, you run and call the cops, and maybe pull out a nickel plated 9mm, anyone normal runs and gets their shotgun, and goes to work, plain and simple. ******** are nothing close to snobs, and nearly all have shotguns. :nyah:
 

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personally, i am wondering, who knocked you silly, and made you think shotguns are for snobs.Say an intruder is in your house, if you're a snob, you run and call the cops, and maybe pull out a nickel plated 9mm, anyone normal runs and gets their shotgun, and goes to work, plain and simple. ******** are nothing close to snobs, and nearly all have shotguns. :nyah:
Well, it's been noted in the past that he has used words like "horrendous" to describe the noise and blast from a shotgun. It's also been noted that he accuses everyone of flinching unless they have a suppressor on their gun or are wearing hearing protection.

I suggest you do the math and arrive at your own conclusion as to why he might dislike shotguns so much.

The insults are just there to confuse the issue.

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One thing i've noticed, is that no matter HOW big or bad a BG is (Or THINKS he is), his guts turn to water when he hears that distinctive noise...It's utterly amazing how one rathre insignificant mechanical sound can turn a "Motherfucker Pig" into " Yessir" :-D
 
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