[andy]

onto the target. 7 hits to the chest in the span of one second, 90 ft lbs each, is a lot of tissue damage and shock for a man to have to deal with, and if it comes unawares, as most assasinations of course do, it's pretty likely to just collapse the guy on the spot. As vs lots of misses and poor hits with .45 ball, you can see why the canned .22 is often chosen, and why it works pretty well. Even without a can, a good .22 auto pistol has enough less blast and recoil to make the typical untrained guy pretty effective, and he can train a lot more with the 22 than he can the .45, of course, for the same money. He can come-by good .22 ammo a LOT easier too, in nearly any part of the world.

 

[RIKA]

If a 22 HG is so great then a MAK is lots better. The MAK handles good, is powerful and ammo is cheap for plenty of practice. The MAK can be canned too if you want.

MAK wins - you lose.

RIKA

 

[John in AR]

...silenced 22 HG sure lets u POUR good hits onto the target...

I certainly hope so; let you know when I get my .22 back.

 

[andy]

well, THAT big clunk is more of a fun-forager than a killing gun. Ever handle a WW2 High Standard with a can? They were packed with a stack of hundreds of single thickness screenwire "washers". easy to make, if you have a punch press and dies, but the blast and heat soon makes them come unraveled, leaving strands of wire in the path of the bullet.

 

[RIKA]

So what does the High Standard and its single thickness screen wire suppressor have to do with the MAK? I think a quality suppressor could be fitted to the MAK without problem. Also IIRC your 'can' uses the screen wire baffles too or did you forget that?

RIKA

 

[gripper]

anyone know much about the heavy bullet(109grain) loadings,and or their use in a suppressed Makarov?Only Makk ammo I shot (lots) was the 95 grn ball.

 

[RIKA]

No personal experience here Gripper. I know that they sell threaded extended barrels for the MAK and its logical that if you can suppress a 380 then you can suppress the 9x18 MAK.

RIKA

 

[John in AR]

So what does the High Standard and its single thickness screen wire suppressor have to do with the MAK?...

I think he's talking about my Ruger Mark II, which I'm having integrally suppressed; to the profile of a 7" bull barrel.

It definitely won't be a pocket gun.

Never handled one of the HS WW2 guns, but have seen photos of them disassembled. Very similar in size to what my ruger will be, but mine's a stack of individual baffles. Not absolutely zero maintenance, but much less than a screen-wire-based suppressor. Cleaning necessary every 1500-2000 rounds, I've been told.

anyone know much about the heavy bullet(109grain) loadings,and or their use in a suppressed Makarov?Only Makk ammo I shot (lots) was the 95 grn ball.

Don't know about mak ammo, but a mak would lend itself quite well to suppressing, if you're interested. Check the 'common' suppressor manufacturers. Advanced Armament, Gemtech, ArmsTech, etc. Any .380 suppressor would work "ok" on a mak, and any 9x19 suppressor (while larger) would work extremely well. A "mini" 9x19 suppressor (which are becoming more common) may well be about perfect for a mak. As popular as the maks have been in the last few years, combined with their fixed barrel design (which is an advantage in suppressing a pistol), I wouldn't be surprised if this has come up for them before.