[Hard Rock]

neither would anybody else, since you are talking about taking 20 seconds and firing a dozen bursts. The Mac is a pos, and anyone who's ever shot one KNOWS it, too.

If you say so... though you are completely wrong. But he, we're used to THAT.

Now, for the technical stuff. In regards to your challange, one trigger pull. Not a dozen bursts in 20 seconds. 30 rounds in one trigger pull. Believe me, I'll be on target and the gun won't jam. But it's a moot point... you'll never show up. You never have, you never will.

Mike

 

[Dorobuta]

loses has ONE "o", <font color=red></font><font color=red></font><font color=red></font><font color=red></font><font color=red>*</font>. How about I shoot you, ONCE, and the gun jams, do you stop bleeding?

Childish challenges simply make you look childish. You can’t stand up to a reasonable challenge, so you have to resort to the tantrums of a small child. This is exactly why you will never get the respect you seemingly crave.

you are special, aren’t you.

 

[John in AR]

reliability is only an issue if you MISS A LOT...

Wow.

 

[BigEd]

any time, u'd like to BET $50,000 that I

can't produce a canned CAR that groups 1.5" at 100 yds (same as it groups without the can) u pos, bring it on.

Good lord that sucks more than Melvin in the prison showers!

Hells bells I honestly didn't originally build my first AR Pistol to be a mini DMR but if I have it braced solidly it's certainly better than 1.5" at 100yds more like .75 to 1.0" at that distance with Hornady 68gr HPBT Match loads of mine or 55gr Hornady SP handloads.

 

[Dorobuta]

reliability is only an issue if you MISS A LOT, something that the Mac 10 is VERY "famous" for doing.

unless that one time it is unreliable is when your life depends on it. You really are a special kind of stupid sometimes...

reliability always matters, you're betting your life on it.

 

[BigEd]

Yeah Melvin.... considering this is Melvin we're talking about.
Shooting at 100yds.
POS cobbled together can.as in garbage can suppressor.
POS, probably 80%lower, remember them pesky laws, Melvinized "CAR-15" barrel and bolt carrier assembly made by God knows who.
Let's not even go into the buffer tube and trigger assemblies.

Or, this is a great deception and wifey bought him a Daniel Defense Mk-18 "pistol".

 

[Dorobuta]

reliability is only an issue if you MISS A LOT, something that the Mac 10 is VERY "famous" for doing.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read. Reliability is only an issue if you value your life, period.

if you don’t think it matters, then you’re a dead man and just don’t realize it.

my life is worth the best quality gear I can afford, and I’ll improve gear when I am able.

 

[John in AR]

No, 1000 fps is NOT below the speed of sound, except maybe on MT everest, the COLDEST day of the year. Most of the time, 1080 fps is the speed of sound...

???

You say that 1080 fps is the speed of sound, while in the same sentence claiming that 1000 fps is NOT below that. Now, I'm a semi-ignorant hillbilly, but when I went to school, 1000 absolutely WAS below 1080. Was that not the case where you went to school?

But elementary-school ciphering aside, the simple (and easily researched) truth about the speed of sound. It does vary based primarily on temperature, and much less so based on elevation, humidity etc, but on most of planet Earth, it's not only above 1000fps, it's actually above 1100fps.

From Speed of Sound Calculator

At 90 degrees fahrenheit, speed of sound is around 1149 fps; and depending on those other variables it could vary very slightly. 1000 is below 1149.
At 75 degrees F, it's 1133 fps. 1000 is below 1133
At 60 degrees F, it's 1117 fps. 1000 is below 1117
At 45 degrees F, it's 1101 fps. 1000 is below 1101
At 30 degrees F, it's 1084 fps. 1000 is below 1084
At zero degrees F, it's 1051 fps. 1000 is below 1051
At -15 degrees F, it's 1033 fps. 1000 is below 1033
At -30 degrees F, 1016 fps. 1000 is below 1016
You have to get all the way down to -43 degrees F to get the speed of sound down to 1000 fps.


So yes, 1000 FPS is well below the speed of sound almost always.

 

[Dorobuta]

???

You say that 1080 fps is the speed of sound, while in the same sentence claiming that 1000 fps is NOT below that. Now, I'm a semi-ignorant hillbilly, but when I went to school, 1000 absolutely WAS below 1080. Was that not the case where you went to school?

But elementary-school ciphering aside, the simple (and easily researched) truth about the speed of sound. It does vary based primarily on temperature, and much less so based on elevation, humidity etc, but on most of planet Earth, it's not only above 1000fps, it's actually above 1100fps.

From Speed of Sound Calculator

At 90 degrees fahrenheit, speed of sound is around 1149 fps; and depending on those other variables it could vary very slightly. 1000 is below 1149.
At 75 degrees F, it's 1133 fps. 1000 is below 1133
At 60 degrees F, it's 1117 fps. 1000 is below 1117
At 45 degrees F, it's 1101 fps. 1000 is below 1101
At 30 degrees F, it's 1084 fps. 1000 is below 1084
At zero degrees F, it's 1051 fps. 1000 is below 1051
At -15 degrees F, it's 1033 fps. 1000 is below 1033
At -30 degrees F, 1016 fps. 1000 is below 1016
You have to get all the way down to -43 degrees F to get the speed of sound down to 1000 fps.


So yes, 1000 FPS is well below the speed of sound almost always.

using facts is generally frowned on by resident experts...

I have never seen someone be wrong so often with such great authority.