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a .22 rd(post shtf) Deer,cattle, sheep, horses,hog, dogs, beavers, geese, THEY have enough meat to be worth a .22 rd, but many such critters are not that hard to snare, or to hit with a slingbow, or take withi a bola,either. Depending upon how desperate you are for flesh food, how skilled you are, how skittish the critters are, the terrain, etc, of course.

Another consideration is REMOVAL of animals that are taking YOUR game and birds. Skunks, cats, snakes, bluejays, crows, possums eat eggs, preflight birds. Cats. hawks, owls, weasel family are primary predators. ***** take your mussels,minnows, tadpoles and frogs. So when u get a chance to shoot such critters (quietly) that might well be worth a .22 rd to you, too. Even if you DON'T want their flesh.
 

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steel traps r too likely to not be available

(in sufficient quantity, anyway) You need LOTS of traps and snare set. box traps, jerk-up snares prevent other animals from eating your catch, too. Trouble is, green limbs LOSE their "springiness" in mere HOURS of being bent over. I've seen some lose it in MINUTES, too. riggiing a WT to act as the "lifting" mechanism is a pita to arrange in most cases. Woven wire fence is nearly everywhere, is easily overlapped to make a smaller mesh size, and can make gill nets, box traps for small game, bird, fish, and turtle traps, with little effort. You can "untwist" barbed wire, or take the insulation off of electical or phone wire, and use same to tie together the woven wire. Taking animals alive, especially fish, means you can KEEP them awhile, so as not to either have their flesh spoil, or require salt and/or sun/drying to preserve it.
 

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edible plants r JUST as dangerous to

be seeking out. Stashing food at a retreat area is a good idea, but almost nobody will bother, and a LOT of people will NEVER MAKE it to the given area, others will have their caches FOUND, they will get RUN OFF from that area, etc. Best figure on GETTING grain, from granary, barn, etc, and silently popping a cow, jerking the meat, so that you CAN get some source of long term food. The edible plants, etc will be GONE, just as fast as will the fish and game, basically. There'll be 100x as many people foraging on them as the land can sustain.
 

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doesn't take much colloidal silver

to stave off most infections, and AVOIDANCE is always the key factor. along with acupressure, etc.

There's MILLIONS of motorcycles, skidoos, jetskis, etc, offering LONG range potential over really bad terrain. When you get 80 mph on pavement, and 30 mph off road, the gas you can find in wrecke autos, tractors, lawnmowers, weed choppers, combines, etc, will take you MANY hundreds of miles. So those who THINK that they live in "remote" areas are fos. they will see MANY scores of at least POTENTIAL attackes. The small town people and most farmers and ranchers are JUST as unable to provide for themselves as are the ghetto residents. You AINT one tank of gas for a motorcycle away from the nearest town, much less such a bike, with 4 5 gallon jerry cans of gas mounted on it. 2 behind a tall buddy rest, 2 in the "saddlebag" position.
 
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