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non corrosive caps, and the right greases, pads, lubes, etc, and blackpowder shooting can be considerably less of a PITA, if it's all that you are "permitted" to own in the way of firearms. Best get the hell out of such a tyrannical area, tho.
 

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Can a felon own or shoot black powder firearms?

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If I understood the way the curent law reads, all pre 1898 weapons, and loose powder non cartridge weapons do not qualify as firearms, and are legal to own. No ID is required, and no background check initiated. Can be delivered to Your front door by UPS as well. Th enice thing about the Ruger is when your done for the day, remove the grips, and throw it in the dishwasher on high cycle, by itself, and that will get very clean.
 

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if use Pyrodex and the non-corrosive caps, and the special waxes available, and if you seal around the caps properly, can even HALFWAY trust the pos to go off all 5 shots.
 

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IIRC the Ruger Old Army has the transfer bar system, so you'd load all six chambers.

RIKA, I'm not positive, but I don't think felons can posses BP firearms either, I THINK they're restriced from crossbows as well.
 

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Black Powder Firearms, and their replicas, are NOT considered firearms if it is a pre-1900 design, AND if it uses percussion, flint, match, etc., ignition. It is only regarded as a firearm if it is used to commit a crime. It's interesting when you take into account the power of the Colt Walker, it's still one of the most powerful handguns in the world. While we're on this note, I think low power, low calibre (as if there are other kinds on the market today) rimfire firearms should have similar rules as the BP firearms. :uzi:

BTW: In regards to felons and minors, that's sort of a grey area, and legal action will usually depend on the mood of the police officer or the DA. Unless you're in Kalifornia, where any type of firearm, or device resembling one, is outlawed.
 

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The Ruger has a transfer bar safety, and the 1858 remingtons used a safety notch inbetween each cyl. was a second shallow notch for resting the hammer on, so not to put it on a live cap. IIRC the max load on the old Draggoons was 40gr. of FFFg, and I shoot that on a regular basis out of my 1858(CVA). What a difference a topstrap makes on the frame strength.
 

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84 C4 said:
Black Powder Firearms, and their replicas, are NOT considered firearms if it is a pre-1900 design, AND if it uses percussion, flint, match, etc., ignition. It is only regarded as a firearm if it is used to commit a crime. It's interesting when you take into account the power of the Colt Walker, it's still one of the most powerful handguns in the world. While we're on this note, I think low power, low calibre (as if there are other kinds on the market today) rimfire firearms should have similar rules as the BP firearms. :uzi:

BTW: In regards to felons and minors, that's sort of a grey area, and legal action will usually depend on the mood of the police officer or the DA. Unless you're in Kalifornia, where any type of firearm, or device resembling one, is outlawed.
84-C4, is real close ,as the way i understand, 'THE LAW'



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Hello Folks,
I just found this forum and started reading some of the posts. Good reading, good info.
Just one problem, I shoot a Ruger Old Army and clean it when I am done and have never seen a transfer bar system in it. After reading here that it has one, I went to the gun safe and got it and a blackhawk out for comparsion. I still don't see the transfer bar system. The Old Army has a hammer on it just like the Remington New Army. Please, is there something I am overlooking.
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Lee
 

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One more thing regarding BP handguns & the law.Your particular State may have regs that say otherwise.ie.In Mi,a BP revo is a revo period.Thus it requires a purchase permit to obtain,cannot be shipped to your home in the mail,& is subject to the same registration as any other handgun.

Lee3370?When you look at the hammer of your Old Army you'll see that the forward face is flat,yes?If,when the hammer is cocked back you look at the firing pin it protrudes a little bit out the back of the frame,yes?Then,while squeezing the trigger & lowering the hammer w/your thumb(WAIT!You DID make double sure it was unloaded right?!) look down in between the hammer & the frame/firing pin.You'll see a flat bar/lever/thingy rise up to fill the gap between,IIRC,the second from top flat on the hammer & the firing pin itself.Geez,it took longer to describe than it'll prob take u to find it.:)
 

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LEE3370 said:
Hello Folks,
I just found this forum and started reading some of the posts. Good reading, good info.
Just one problem, I shoot a Ruger Old Army and clean it when I am done and have never seen a transfer bar system in it. After reading here that it has one, I went to the gun safe and got it and a blackhawk out for comparsion. I still don't see the transfer bar system. The Old Army has a hammer on it just like the Remington New Army. Please, is there something I am overlooking.
Thanks,
Lee
Last time I handled an Old Army, which is admittedly 5+ years ago, there was no transfer bar system on it. The Blackhawks, Bisleys, etc, do, but not any Old Army I've ever seen.
 

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Last time I handled an Old Army, which is admittedly 5+ years ago, there was no transfer bar system on it. The Blackhawks, Bisleys, etc, do, but not any Old Army I've ever seen.
Really?It was my understanding that the only diff between them was the BP specific parts.That the frame was pure Blackhawk.Well,if so ,I've been wrong before.Just not today until now. :toilet:
 

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Anyone have hard data on felons with BP guns? I really don't think it matters, it's still a firearm. I asked a guy I used to work with who was a felon and he said he couldn't buy a BP arm either, or a crossbow for that matter. Was he right or no?
 

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The Ruger Old Army is a fine revolver but you have to clean it very thoroughly. I think that Ruger's "stainless steel" will rust faster than carbon steel even when you shoot Pyrodex. Thats the only thing I hate about it.

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no hard data from me, but it has always been my understanding, that yes a felon could own /keep in his home a cap and ball revolver[indiana]



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Ruger Old Army

Hi Folks,
OK, I got the Old Army back out and cocked it (it IS unloaded). When I look at the frame under the hammer where the hammer hits when it goes forward, there is no firing pin, just a hole in the frame and through the hole I see the end of the nipple. The hammer is not flat on the face like a Blackhawk, the hammer is like an 1858 Remington, long chisel shaped to go through the frame and strike the cap. When I let the hammer down with the trigger pulled, to just beyond the half cocked position, then let up on the trigger, the hammer will continue on down until it contacts the end of the nipple. On a Blackhawk, when I am doing this, when I let up on the trigger, the transfer bar falls down and the hammer cannot contact the firing pin. I still don't see a transfer bar system.
Thanks for the help,
Lee
 
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