[RIKA]

From Steven Camp's website and review of the Star BM.

Note: The Star BM's bbl comes with but one locking lug. Steel on Star pistols is traditionally "soft" compared to other handguns and one can see the heat-treated areas on the slides in many cases. Recoil springs are not so easily changed/replaced on these pistols and for these reasons I do NOT recommend much use of +P ammunition. None was used in today's test for that reason and the fact that spare parts are tough to find.

I do not think that Mr. Camp would recommend conversion of this pistol to 356 TSW nor the use of hot loads.

RIKA

 

[mrostov]

No, he wasn't that impressed with the Star BM. Only ONE locking lug and soft metal, oh yeah, THAT'S what I want to shoot a rocket load in.......

However, Mr. Camp did seem to really take a shine to the Makarov as a good, general purpose shooting and CCW pistol.

 

[andy]

just because YOU are stupid about what pressures a 55 gr bullet at 2200 fps doesn't mean crap, sonny. Mag safe's 52 gr 9mm, at 2100 fps in a 4" barrel, aint even plus P. Dont blame YOUR ignorance on ME dumbass. The 55 gr Split Nose has a LOT more room for powder than does the 52 gr Mag safe, because of the hollowbase. The skirts of the hollowbase seal the bore better, but squeeze down more easily in the rifling than does a coppe jacket, too. What Steve SAID, dumbasses is that his BM showed NO wear in 3000 rds. Just because YOU are too stupid and cheap to have a PRACTICE gun doesn't make it un feasible to practice with one gun, and ccw another. Just look at all the stupid fucks that practice with a 1911 and then carry a Mak or .38 snub.

 

[mrostov]

You're being dillusional on the pressure that your supposed load generates.

BTW, I also target practice a lot with a Makarov, in addition to the .45ACP. I usually have at least one .30cal ammo can full of 9x18mm FMJ blasting ammo (about 1500 rounds) laying about at any given moment.

 

[Garand]

gunkid, please post your evidence that the gun will withstand those pressures.

 

[krept]

shouldn't there be an easy way to calculate the pressures? I don't reload, so I have no idea.

cheers

 

[copycat]

Unlike yours Andy Mr. Camps gun was unmodified, I wouldn't be supprised if your mods make it considerably less reliable and more prone to failures.

 

[DJetAce]

Unlike yours Andy Mr. Camps gun was unmodified, I wouldn't be supprised if your mods make it considerably less reliable and more prone to failures.

And that is why gunkid comes up with this 'guns don't need to be reliable' post. Trying to excuse his POS Star.

 

[BigEd]

And that is why gunkid comes up with this 'guns don't need to be reliable' post. Trying to excuse his POS Star.

Wow, here we go with that again. I did not catch this thread back then by Tardious Maximus because I still worked for that dumpster fire of a security company.

 

[boati]

From Steven Camp's website and review of the Star BM.

Note: The Star BM's bbl comes with but one locking lug. Steel on Star pistols is traditionally "soft" compared to other handguns and one can see the heat-treated areas on the slides in many cases. Recoil springs are not so easily changed/replaced on these pistols and for these reasons I do NOT recommend much use of +P ammunition. None was used in today's test for that reason and the fact that spare parts are tough to find.

I do not think that Mr. Camp would recommend conversion of this pistol to 356 TSW nor the use of hot loads.

RIKA

so what? i used to converse with Steve quite a bit. the loads I recommend aint plus P, for starters, and you can have 3 stars for the price of many of today's guns. It doesn't take much checking around to find other gun springs that will fit it. Nobody shoots a lot of plus P thru anything. In fact, nobody's shooting much 9mm at ALL these days.

 

[Dorobuta]

so what? i used to converse with Steve quite a bit. the loads I recommend aint plus P, for starters, and you can have 3 stars for the price of many of today's guns. It doesn't take much checking around to find other gun springs that will fit it. Nobody shoots a lot of plus P thru anything. In fact, nobody's shooting much 9mm at ALL these days.

those of us that bought it cheap and stacked it deep have plenty of ammo to practice with.

my advice to people right now is to try and buy at least one box of each caliber you shoot every time you’re in a gun store or a sporting goods store. It adds up. Then when it gets back to normal, start buying in bulk.

 

[BigBassMan]

Name dropping again, Steve Camp was a true gentleman an friend, he would have never spoken two words to Tard. EVER!

 

[BigEd]

There were two guys with very similar names Steven A. Camp a fine gentleman.passed away in 2011 iirc.
Then there is or was Steve Camp who I could care less if he died or not and was as much a liar and Bullshit artist as Melvin. I can see those two hanging out and swapping BS techniques.
The latter dude also lived in Colorado.
And was banned from Warrior Talk twice for running the same training scam.
Then he cranked out several fake user names to try and scam members there via PM's. Sound familiar? 🙄

 

[BigBassMan]

Steven A. Guy who wrote the book on Browning HP an other great articles.

 

[Garand]

those of us that bought it cheap and stacked it deep have plenty of ammo to practice with.

my advice to people right now is to try and buy at least one box of each caliber you shoot every time you’re in a gun store or a sporting goods store. It adds up. Then when it gets back to normal, start buying in bulk.

I'll whole heartily with the first comment, regarding the 2nd comment at least 90% of the ammo my wife and I send down range is reloaded by me, I don't like to be dependent on any store for my supply. I don't know what supply is like in everyone else neck of the woods but components are available, maybe not your favorite 9 mile sniper bullets, but at least there is an alternate.