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so if you have a bipod, you can have TWO shots in the air, at different men, before the first "hittee" starts screaming. Before the guys can react, and get MOVING, #3 gets hit. Then a fast several shots could easily hit another as they scamble for cover, especially if you are ABOVE them, and then you hit 1-2 more as they try to figure out WHICH side of trees, rocks, etc constitute cover from you. So, yeah, you MIGHT get a subsonic bullet into 5(unarmored) guys, at 200 yds, and they'd still have no CLUE what to do about it. hitting 3 is virtually a certainty, too. That would REALLY hurt a group of 6 guys, might easily run off a group of 9 survivors, too. 50% casulties nearly always suffices to stop a given attack, and 25% casulties OFTEN does so. Killing 26 battle hardened vets, made 70 or so others surrender to York. killing 4, wounding 12 more sure ran off 80 M16 armed, RIFLE-ARMORED batfags, at waco.
 

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Not to obsess with fighting & killing, but I had an unusual thought occur to me when trying different loads in my CAR with the .22 unit and suppressor.

Primarily, the bulk-pak .22LR "hi-velocity". There was no detectable sonic 'crack' when firing this load; whether it's largely contained in this suppressor that's meant for the much higher 'blast' 5.56 than a normal .22 suppressor, I can't say, but it's true. Now when the bullet struck the target (and suddenly crossed the sound barrier in deceleration), there was a definite sonic crack.

What was intriguing, was the fact that since the sound originated at the target, if the target was a group of men more than 50 yards off, the only sound they'd be likely to hear would be an apparent gunshot originating FROM they guy who got hit. This may be even more disorienting than a completely unheard (nad substantially less ballistically effective) subsonic shot.
 

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try it from prone. The crack comes from

the first solid object struck by the shock wave. There is no crack (near the shottist) when you fire from one lip of a canyon to the other.
 

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The "crack" of a shockwave is from the overpressure as the shockwave passes. It does not have to impact anything to make noise. There WILL be audible noise from the shockwave all the way from the shooter to the point the projectile stops, or goes subsonic.
 
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