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In winter, no need to tend them daily,either. So you can have twice as many, if need be. If one area becomes non-productive, it aint hard to move them, either. That many "helpers",working for you 24-7, taking cats, dogs, fish, turtles, birds, etc, you will have meat daily, and some of it can be "stored-alive" (like the fish, turtles, snakes and some types of birds, at least for a while.) You can do like the Koreans do, and tie up a dog or two, feeding them the guts of animals and birds, fish and bird heads, etc. So, along with having taken some livestock, early on, and either taking or having some grain, you can easily outlast 99% of the population, if you just pay attention, for the first 1-3 months. By then, you will have so much flesh food stored,and stored up(or know about )so much wild edible plants, that you will be fine ,until things have calmed down enough to make it feasible to (carefully) garden again. 1 year is all you'll have to survive the hard way. Either nearly everyone will either be dead, or something else will have restored the peace. Either way, it will be ok to have scattered, small, hidden garden plots. You dont need more than 4x8 ft of the better plants, in 4-5 different places, and 8-10 such aint hard to tend. If half are found, you still have plenty. Of course, you will intelligently and silently hunt down, trap, lay-for anyone or any thing that's raiding your garden. After a year, such will be VERY rare, though.
 

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You say its not defficult, have you ever tried it during the winter on snowshoes? Do you even own snow shoes?
 

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What kind of traps do you prefer GK? What kind of locking catch do you have on your snares? I really don't think that you do much, if any, hunting or trapping but if you do then tell us about your adventures and trapping/snareing techniques so that we may learn from you.

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That's 20+ places for someone to wait for you to come by moving around making noise and kill you for your gear.

Or put poison on your trapped game, caught fish, etc.
 

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So, now you are tied to a geographic area, specifically within easy walking distance of the river where the lines are. Because it is winter, you also will pinpoint which side of the river you are on.

If you tend to the lines regularly (even if only once a week), it will be easy to establish the pattern.

Just an ambush waiting to happen. Since you will be alone, and the water will make a natural barrier, setting up a kill box will be a peice of cake.

But, ok.

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That's 20+ places for someone to wait for you to come by moving around making noise and kill you for your gear.

Or put poison on your trapped game, caught fish, etc.
Bingo.

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In winter, no need to tend them daily,either. So you can have twice as many, if need be. If one area becomes non-productive, it aint hard to move them, either. That many "helpers",working for you 24-7, taking cats, dogs, fish, turtles, birds, etc, you will have meat daily, and some of it can be "stored-alive" (like the fish, turtles, snakes and some types of birds, at least for a while.) You can do like the Koreans do, and tie up a dog or two, feeding them the guts of animals and birds, fish and bird heads, etc. So, along with having taken some livestock, early on, and either taking or having some grain, you can easily outlast 99% of the population, if you just pay attention, for the first 1-3 months. By then, you will have so much flesh food stored,and stored up(or know about )so much wild edible plants, that you will be fine ,until things have calmed down enough to make it feasible to (carefully) garden again. 1 year is all you'll have to survive the hard way. Either nearly everyone will either be dead, or something else will have restored the peace. Either way, it will be ok to have scattered, small, hidden garden plots. You dont need more than 4x8 ft of the better plants, in 4-5 different places, and 8-10 such aint hard to tend. If half are found, you still have plenty. Of course, you will intelligently and silently hunt down, trap, lay-for anyone or any thing that's raiding your garden. After a year, such will be VERY rare, though.
Turtles in the winter? I don't think so NUTTY JOHN!
 

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The only turtle andy will get in winter is one of the Mutant Ninja Turtles (hint: bait your trap with pizza).

RIKA :D
 

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Don't be diss'n Donatello, Rafael, Leonardo, and Michealangelo...

considering where he lives, he should know more about winter - guess he doesn't get out much....

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