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This news clip is from New Orleans. The locals are crying cause the government will not wipe their ass. They don't see the government cannot save you. The expect the goverment to suppy anything and everything. Bunch of crybabies.


ASSOCIATED PRESS September 19, 2004


NEW ORLEANS - Those who had the money to flee Hurricane Ivan ran into hours-long traffic jams. Those too poor to leave the city had to find their own shelter - a policy that was eventually reversed, but only a few hours before the deadly storm struck land.
New Orleans dodged the knockout punch many feared from the hurricane, but the storm exposed what some say are significant flaws in the Big Easy's civil disaster plans.

Much of New Orleans is below sea level, kept dry by a system of pumps and levees. As Ivan charged through the Gulf of Mexico, more than a million people were urged to flee. Forecasters warned that a direct hit on the city could send torrents of Mississippi River backwash over the city's levees, creating a 20-foot-deep cesspool of human and industrial waste.

Residents with cars took to the highways. Others wondered what to do.

"They say evacuate, but they don't say how I'm supposed to do that," Latonya Hill, 57, said at the time. "If I can't walk it or get there on the bus, I don't go. I don't got a car. My daughter don't either."

Well boo hoo hoo. Poor baby is to stupid to have a car.

Advocates for the poor were indignant.

"If the government asks people to evacuate, the government has some responsibility to provide an option for those people who can't evacuate and are at the whim of Mother Nature," said Joe Cook of the New Orleans ACLU.

What in the flying hell makes you think the goverment has responsiblity to do this.

It's always been a problem, but the situation is worse now that the Red Cross has stopped providing shelters in New Orleans for hurricanes rated above Category 2. Stronger hurricanes are too dangerous, and Ivan was a much more powerful Category 4.

In this case, city officials first said they would provide no shelter, then agreed that the state-owned Louisiana Superdome would open to those with special medical needs. Only Wednesday afternoon, with Ivan just hours away, did the city open the 20-story-high domed stadium to the public.

Mayor Ray Nagin's spokeswoman, Tanzie Jones, insisted that there was no reluctance at City Hall to open the Superdome, but said the evacuation was the top priority.

"Our main focus is to get the people out of the city," she said.

Callers to talk radio complained about the late decision to open up the dome, but the mayor said he would do nothing different.

"We did the compassionate thing by opening the shelter," Nagin said. "We wanted to make sure we didn't have a repeat performance of what happened before. We didn't want to see people cooped up in the Superdome for days."

When another dangerous hurricane, Georges, appeared headed for the city in 1998, the Superdome was opened as a shelter and an estimated 14,000 people poured in. But there were problems, including theft and vandalism.

This time far fewer took refuge from the storm - an estimated 1,100 - at the Superdome and there was far greater security: 300 National Guardsmen.

The main safety measure - getting people out of town _ raised its own problems.

More than 1 million people tried to leave the city and surrounding suburbs on Tuesday, creating a traffic jam as bad as or worse than the evacuation that followed Georges. In the afternoon, state police took action, reversing inbound lanes on southeastern Louisiana interstates to provide more escape routes. Bottlenecks persisted, however.

Col. Henry Whitehorn, head of state police, said he believes his agency acted appropriately, but also acknowledged he never expected a seven-hour-long crawl for the 60 miles between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

It was so bad that some broadcasters were telling people to stay home, that they had missed their window of opportunity to leave. They claimed the interstates had turned into parking lots where trapped people could die in a storm surge.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco and Nagin both acknowledged the need to improve traffic flow and said state police should consider reversing highway lanes earlier. They also promised meetings with governments in neighboring localities and state transportation officials to improve evacuation plans.

But Blanco and other state officials stressed that, while irritating, the clogged escape routes got people out of the most vulnerable areas.

"We were able to get people out," state Commissioner of Administration Jerry Luke LeBlanc said. "It was successful. There was frustration, yes. But we got people out of harm's way."
 

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Its hard to move that many people in such a short time. NOLA is just a small example of what will happen in a real crisis. I wonder where the city officials were sheltered and if their place was comfortable. We can only rely on ourselves and on God and we are expected to help ourselves first.

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Oh,never mind. :)
 

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Well, I don't see where the government is required to move you if there's a problem. People survived these storms long before there were highways and cars or superdomes.

I still got a kick out of people during our last two hits who were indignant that they should be warned to boil their water. After all, how can you boil water without power? :eek:
 

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What was so funny was the guy crying cause neither he nor his daughter had a car. Damn fool ought to know that if you have to get out of dodge, you better have a way.

I'm amazed how idiotic so many people are. They build there homes on flood plains then cry when a flood comes.

As the Knight said to Indianna, "Choose wisely".

Those idiots chose poorly.
 

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This whole thing would be comical, if it wasn't so tragic. Wait for Big Brother to save you? Hold your breath. I have seen the studies. In an actual, life threatening situation, less than one in five local or state employees would show up for their job. The Federal employees did a little better with an estimated 1 in 3.4 manning their posts. Where are they? They are HOME taking care of their first responsibilty. Fact of life. Count on the civil government to be overwhelmed. I have just recently seen it happen. Just had a tornado? Diall 911 as a looter is breaking into your home. Response time in a rural environment should be no more than 2 to 3 hours. Don't be crying for Uncle Sugar to save you, you will wind up disapointed or dead.
 

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Now Terry, more than 1 out of 5 FDNY and NYPD showed up for their job (and it was shift change time) during 9/11. So I would not go that far.

But, this Uncle Suger thing is right on. I'm just amazed how many people just sit on there ass in a emergency and expect others to dig them out. And then expect the government to transport them, feed them, cloth them, everything but wipe their butt!

Yes I do hope if there is a real disaster the local, state, and federal people do get their act together, but I'm not going to wait for them!
 

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I have no doubt that they did. This not my opinion, it was a governement study projecting a GENERAL disaster where police, emt's, and firefighters felt their own families to be at risk.
 

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i'd like to share

last friday, i was going to do a 'small' job on an older womans home in a trailer park.

there was about a 93/94 camero/firebird convertibale[sp] setting off of the inerstate exit ramp on the exit i needed, smoke coming out from the hood,windows rolled down, no one around.

i checked for a water trail as i passed it,none, i stop 50yd ahead and pullover, there's fire dripping off the oilpan/engine block[i didn't have a fire extingisher on that rig,i was driving] and call 911 to report it[they wanted my cell#TWICE, well, about 15 min later a state trooper pulls up[SHE WAS A HOTTIE] 10min later the fire truck shows up, the dash/front seat/ tires are fully involved by now! they cool the flames pretty quick but can not get the hood open and it's still dripping fire, they attack it with crow bars for about 10-15min, beforethey break out the 'JAWS'.

i did tell them the car was empty of people on the phone!
but the fire truck crew acted like this car fire was interrupting montel/ophrah
or something.

i have no clue where this post is going, later!

[i figured the car was stolen/hot-wired]
 

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God save me from the mind-set of "entitlement". This all began with FDR's "New Deal" and the NRA (no, not the Nat'l Rifle Assoc.) which was supposed to introduce welfare as, I believe, a temporary help to so many suffering from The Great Depression. Now, some seventy-odd years and three generations later, it has become institutionalized and there-by expected.
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