Afte reading for months about the vaunted Phonix Arms HP .22,I asked my nephew to bring his over for a little impromptu shoot. Neither shooter, "T" or "J" had ever fired an HP .22 before. They were given twenty- five rounds to familiarize, then shoot five for score at 50 feet from the standing position. Two handed, Weaver or whatever. No time was imposed. One shooter's five round group measured a tight 9 & 1/4 inches while the others was 11 & 1/1/2. Both routinely fire expert monthly at their agencies. I then had them fire my Bersa Mos. 23. Same rules. One shooter HAD fired my Bersa prior to this. I hope the photo is small enough, but if its not, each shooter fired a 3/4" group, with one round, the first double action one, being about an inch below the group. That HP 22's a great sniper weapon. What a piece of trash!