typical IDPA has u firing from too great range

andy · Jul 25, 2004

at way too many targets. For instance, the IDPA "qualifier" course has you stupidly staying exposed (even if it IS "just" your head and shoulder) at 20yds, for 5-6 seconds, while you shoot twice at each of 3 guys.

I got news. Those guys will be MOVING if you are shooting at them, and you will probably need 4-7 shots at EACH one to score a good hit. Staying exposed to all 3, especially your entire torso's being exposed, for that long a period of time is just flat stupid.

20 yds is a one in 50 or less frequency sort of shootout, for the civilian, and if he has to engage more than ONE guy at such a range, he will survive having to do so only by pure LUCK. So why bother making 1/3rd of the shooting done at 20 yds? It's ridiculously out of line with reality.

GBullet · Jul 25, 2004

I agree. I would design it to be entirely within 15-16 feet.

Stillwater · Jul 25, 2004

223 fan said:
at way too many targets. For instance, the IDPA "qualifier" course has you stupidly staying exposed (even if it IS "just" your head and shoulder) at 20yds, for 5-6 seconds, while you shoot twice at each of 3 guys.

I got news. Those guys will be MOVING if you are shooting at them, and you will probably need 4-7 shots at EACH one to score a good hit. Staying exposed to all 3, especially your entire torso's being exposed, for that long a period of time is just flat stupid.

20 yds is a one in 50 or less frequency sort of shootout, for the civilian, and if he has to engage more than ONE guy at such a range, he will survive having to do so only by pure LUCK. So why bother making 1/3rd of the shooting done at 20 yds? It's ridiculously out of line with reality.

Whats the matter MELVIN? Are you having trouble shooting the course? If it is too hard, just quit, don't try it.

Magnum88C · Jul 25, 2004

C'mon Bill, you know that all encounters are at muzzle contact distances. . .Funny IDPA wa first created because IPSC became too much of a game, where the guy who could spend the most money on raceguns wins.

Stillwater · Jul 25, 2004

Magnum88C said:
C'mon Bill, you know that all encounters are at muzzle contact distances. . .Funny IDPA was first created because IPSC became too much of a game, where the guy who could spend the most money on raceguns wins.

All of the action shooting competitions, eventually evolve into games, and gamers.

Even Cowboy Action Shooting is evolving into games, and gamers. The competitors are doing "short stroke" modifications to their lever rifles.

Magnum88C · Jul 25, 2004

Yeah, that kinda sucks. But at least with CAS you get to dress up in cool outfits and play roles. IPSC all you get to do is wear ballcaps, mirrored shades and try to act cool and listen to people brag about their $5000 1911s.

RIKA · Jul 25, 2004

Magnum88C said:
Yeah, that kinda sucks. But at least with CAS you get to dress up in cool outfits and play roles. IPSC all you get to do is wear ballcaps, mirrored shades and try to act cool and listen to people brag about their $5000 1911s.

Well, if thats their game at IPSC its okay with me. CAS sounds a lot more interesting. It would be fun to dress up in costumes and shoot in competition. Do women get to wear jeans or do they have to wear dresses? Come to think of it, it might be fun to dress up as a dance hall floozey.

I think I'll check out SASS and see what they have to say.

RIKA

andy · Jul 26, 2004

most ARE at 6 ft or less,*****, with a LOT of them being at arm's length or less. Just because YOU are ignorant of the facts doesn't change the FACTS, *****, it just makes you ignorant, that's all.

Stillwater · Jul 26, 2004

andy said:
most ARE at 6 ft or less,*****, with a LOT of them being at arm's length or less. Just because YOU are ignorant of the facts doesn't change the FACTS, *****, it just makes you ignorant, that's all.

I see, you seem to have been shooting lately, or you are trying to make us believe so.

I put a challenge out to you MELVIN. Are you a Cowardly Liar, or are you man enough to meet the challenge?

If you don't answer, everybody will know your all hat and no cattle. In other words -- you'll be known as a WUSS, MELVIN.

Magnum88C · Jul 26, 2004

Hmmm, responding to people on his "ignore" list again, I see.

Stillwater · Jul 26, 2004

Magnum88C said:
Hmmm, responding to people on his "ignore" list again, I see.

M88C:
Don't look at it that way -- both 223 fan, and andy, have their alter ego's to converse with. They don't need stvpes, pos's, and fos people to talk to.

typical IDPA has u firing from too great range

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