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V max, at 500 yds, in the chest, from the SAME OAL 223 as an M1A. That bullet will still have 1800 fps, still expand,and still dump all of its 530 ft lbs in you. Those who "think" a 223 has no power beyond 200-300m are just IGNORANT of the facts, that's all.
 

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m1A has 22" barrel, 3" flashhider, and a LONGER action than the AR. So a 24" barreled 223, with an adequate 1" long flashider, is the SAME oal. Such a barrel starts that 75 gr bullet at 3000 fps.
 

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So to fit this bullet are you going to tell us again how your going to carve out the front portion of the magazine so it will fit, like you did last time?
 

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V max, at 500 yds, in the chest, from the SAME OAL 223 as an M1A. That bullet will still have 1800 fps, still expand,and still dump all of its 530 ft lbs in you. Those who "think" a 223 has no power beyond 200-300m are just IGNORANT of the facts, that's all.
Why do you switch to a .223 with a proper barrel length, instead of quoting your pos 11" car?

We have always said that the .223 is a good choice from a weapon with a proper length barrel.

We have just been pointing out that your 11" poodle shooter is just that, a hacked up CQB weapon (of course you tend to only think in pistol distances anyway).

You should try reading what it is we post. I don't recall anyone saying that the .223 is junk. I only recall people pointing out that YOUR hack job is a pos.

Reading comprehension, like math, isn't one of your strong suits, but that's ok.

We don't dislike you any more. (of course, we don't dislike you any less either.)

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m1A has 22" barrel, 3" flashhider, and a LONGER action than the AR. So a 24" barreled 223, with an adequate 1" long flashider, is the SAME oal. Such a barrel starts that 75 gr bullet at 3000 fps.
you really like proving over and over again why your 10" AR is a poor choice. You keep posting examples showing how an AR with a decent barrel length is a good choice. How come you never post your 10" shorty as being capable in this examples? It is almost as though you know your choice sucks.
 

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IdI wonder if he gave up wrapping the barrel and gas tube with paracord haven't seen him posting about that in years.

Or the "Bondo" Tactical/Sniper Grip.🤣

I'd still like to know what he did or would use in the way of parts sources...Hesse/Vulcan?😁
 

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V max, at 500 yds, in the chest, from the SAME OAL 223 as an M1A. That bullet will still have 1800 fps, still expand,and still dump all of its 530 ft lbs in you. Those who "think" a 223 has no power beyond 200-300m are just IGNORANT of the facts, that's all.
nobody thinks that, other than from your POS 10" (which isn't shooting these rounds anyway)

I thought you state we should be using the GI round, which these aren't.


An M4 clone would be a far more versatile choice than your 10" abortion - it will outperform it with the same ammo across the board.

a 10" .300 blackout would be a better choice - it will also outperform your shorty in every way that matters, and subsonic are a magazine change away.
 

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And what, exactly do you think you will be doing after taking an 168 gr Barnes VOR-TX at that distance from an AR-10? You planing on rubbing some dirt in it and shaking it off?

Do you see how your silly challenges are silly?
 

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BTW, the Barnes VOR-TX is a factory load. i.e.: available off the shelf. I used it for that very reason. I hand load for my .308s, so I have an even better selection and more accurate rounds. Just wanted to highlight a serious flaw in Boati's plans, since all his challenges depend on custom ammo.

Off the shelf ammo will absolutely ruin the rest of your life.
 

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I've become a big fan of the Barnes solid copper bullet line. I've only used the factory-loaded stuff so far (both Barnes & Remington brands), but have been very impressed with them overall. The 130-grain Remington Hog Hammer is the load I've settled on for my .300 blackout pistol, and even the ancient and usually-anemic .45Colt caliber gets a boost from Barnes loads. Their 200-grain "XPB" solid copper HP runs a little over 500 ft/lbs from the 5" revolver and over 750 ft/lbs from the 20" rifle. That's very good for a load that's not a "ruger-only" or +P load.
 

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Melvin, why would you be surprised that someone couldn't do anything after they were shot in the chest? With any bullet?
 

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I've become a big fan of the Barnes solid copper bullet line. I've only used the factory-loaded stuff so far (both Barnes & Remington brands), but have been very impressed with them overall. The 130-grain Remington Hog Hammer is the load I've settled on for my .300 blackout pistol, and even the ancient and usually-anemic .45Colt caliber gets a boost from Barnes loads. Their 200-grain "XPB" solid copper HP runs a little over 500 ft/lbs from the 5" revolver and over 750 ft/lbs from the 20" rifle. That's very good for a load that's not a "ruger-only" or +P load.
I load a 225 gr Barnes tripple shock for my .338 that is .75 MOA from the bench, more than adequate for elk, bear, moose, etc. (it will also punch a ceramic plate at 100 yards - we did some testing)
 

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IdI wonder if he gave up wrapping the barrel and gas tube with paracord haven't seen him posting about that in years.
I'd forgotten about that, but you're right; that's what he used to recommend in order to make it slimmer than the same gun with normal handguards. Much like the M855 ball recommendation, just simply abandoned without a stated reason or even acknowledgment.
 

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Yeah, of course now he'd come back with his classic "I never said that!" defense.
Thinking back it'd probably work for him.
As he only advocated carrying something like 40-50 rds at most?
I can't recall if it was a 20rd in the gun and a spare 20 or 30rd magazine in the back pocket.
Probably wouldn't be enough to melt the paracord loose.
If I had the time, money and resources to waste I'd love to do a parody slash thest of some of this.
Including doing a POS-CAR Pistol variant.
Think I mentioned it once before. Paracord forend wrap, J-B Weld target grip and a Form-1 suppressor built to his specs.
All in the cheapest AR build one could do.
But man, the pistol I could maybe salvage some money back out of but the tax stamp for his silencer would be flushing $200 right down the drain.😁
 

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You might, and I mean might (check with the ATF) get away with building a suppressor to his specs with the screen and neoprene baffles, and then "repairing" it with actual baffles made of a better material. Since the tube is the part that gets the serial number, if it is made with disposable guts you might be ok.

I'm guessing, I don't know.
 

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That is a thought.
Oh not sure if I mentioned it before but not too long ago in IIRC Springdale AR a teenager was caught shooting up mail boxes with a silencer on I believe it was a .22.
ATf of course got involved but after testing it declined to press charges as it really didn't work as a silencer.
Makes me wonder if the delinquent had one of Melvin's books as a guide?😁
 

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Interesting - the more times you read these outbursts as they bubble up to the surface, the more inconsistencies and fantasies you notice.
u aint doing CRAP after taking a hit with 75gr V max, at 500 yds, in the chest, from the SAME OAL 223 as an M1A. That bullet...
...does not exist. The V-Max bullets in .223/.224 caliber start at 35 grains and top out at 60.


So we have this detailed, specific ballistic diatribe:
...That bullet will still have 1800 fps, still expand,and still dump all of its 530 ft lbs in you. Those who "think" a 223 has no power beyond 200-300m are just IGNORANT of the facts, that's all.
About a bullet that doesn't even exist. More evidence/examples of just daydreaming about these things and coming up with detailed rants based on imaginations.

The silly part is that there are plenty of 75-grain .224 bullets that could have been used as actual examples, but it's more fun (and certainly easier) to post sermons based on imagination rather than actual data. They do (or did) make an ELD in that weight, and they used to make an A-Max in that weight, but not V-Max as far as I recall or can find any record of. It's possible I'm wrong and just don't remember it, but I can't find any record of there ever being one. If I'm wrong on this, I'd appreciate someone correcting me.
 

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John in AR, As far as I know it was the AMax and it's discontinued as of what my Hornady X-Edition reloaders book says.
Going by what's presented for 73-75grain bullets it has been replaced by the ELD Match of the same weight.
Not one mention of a VMax of that weight.
I think our excitable boy got confused about the name as the pictures can look similar.

But if Melvin dreamed of it it must be real.😁
 
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