MUCH hotter loads shouldnt MATTER. So the ONLY diff then,between 45 plus P ammo and .22 is the diff in recoil. The 22 has 1/6 the recoil, but it can weigh as little as 1/4 as much,too. The M21 is 12 ozs when fully loaded, the 1911 weighs 47 ozs when fully loaded with 9 rds of 230 gr bullets, with a steel beavertail grip safety. So such a .45,inpractical terms, has only twice as much recoil as does a M21, and since a M21 has about zip recoil, I am CORRECT in saying that there's nothing much to keeping .45 ball in the 10" A zone at 10 ft, as fast as you can pull the trigger, when recoil is the only issue.
Recoil is NOT the only issue, however. Blast IS a factor, because "auditory exclusion" does NOT always occur. In fact,it OFTEN doesn't occur, or is "spotty". At times, your own blasts, and those of your buddies, are HORRIFICALLY effecting your "accuracy".
The other factors are that you will miss a LOT even with just a .22,on movers, while you move, in badlight, with wounds already inflicted upon you, when ducking incoming blows, bullets, etc. At pistol type range, the natural mammalian reluctance to kill its own kind is a lot more drastic in its effect than it is at longer, rifle ranges. The sniper's scope in a way makes his killing more "personal" because the target is unaware of his risk(inmost cases, or he wouldn't BE "hittable" at long range). The sniper can see the expressions on the man's face, sometimes even after the shot. The guy with just an iron sighted infantry rifle, tho, is just blasting away. They usually have no IDEA whether or not THEIR shot dropped THAT guy,or if some other infantryman also fired athim,a random richochet hit him, the belt fed got him, or even if he really WAS hit at all, or just went prone behind cover,tripped and fell, etc.
So there's LOTS of other things going-on in a pistol fight, and it makes VERY little difference that your practice load has quite a bit less recoil than does your carry load. IF it's the case that some cops practiced with .38 wadcutters and carried 357 full charge ammo, they got killed for LOTS of other reasons than just the difference in recoil. They STILL miss the man COMPLETELY with 3/4 of their shots,(as a nationwide average, even using the far easier to control SA-DA 9mm, and they miss the chest 90+% of the time.
Diallo wasn't even shooting at those 4 cops. The fired 41 shots, the FURTHEST away cop being 15 ft, they hit him SOMEPLACE 22 times,with ONE solid hit to the chest. One cop fired at him 7x, from 6 ft away. GUESS who got 7 of those 22 hits, (as well as the single solid hit to the chest) hmmm?
That means that the other 3 cops, firing 34 shots, got 15 hits, ALL of them peripheral in nature.
So getting MORE of the RIGHT KIND of practice, by virtue of using 9mm ball instead of .40, .45 plusP, or 357 Sig "carry loads" means a LOT more than does practicing LESS, with the 3x as expensive "realistic" ammo.
Where guys screw up is in doing so much of the sort of shooting that constitutes less than 1% of what's needed (ie, slow, or beyond 10 ft or at more than 2 targets in any one "exposure)) Fire as fast as you can. Get a timer, keep records. Use doubled layers of black plastic sheeting to simulate darkness. Rig a moving target, fire while moving, use cover efficiently, fire from awkward positions,weither either hand, and with the "wrong" eye per hand. You can easily lose the loss of one eye(temporarily) from debris striking you (from anear miss) or from yourown or another's blood running down your face.
Recoil is NOT the only issue, however. Blast IS a factor, because "auditory exclusion" does NOT always occur. In fact,it OFTEN doesn't occur, or is "spotty". At times, your own blasts, and those of your buddies, are HORRIFICALLY effecting your "accuracy".
The other factors are that you will miss a LOT even with just a .22,on movers, while you move, in badlight, with wounds already inflicted upon you, when ducking incoming blows, bullets, etc. At pistol type range, the natural mammalian reluctance to kill its own kind is a lot more drastic in its effect than it is at longer, rifle ranges. The sniper's scope in a way makes his killing more "personal" because the target is unaware of his risk(inmost cases, or he wouldn't BE "hittable" at long range). The sniper can see the expressions on the man's face, sometimes even after the shot. The guy with just an iron sighted infantry rifle, tho, is just blasting away. They usually have no IDEA whether or not THEIR shot dropped THAT guy,or if some other infantryman also fired athim,a random richochet hit him, the belt fed got him, or even if he really WAS hit at all, or just went prone behind cover,tripped and fell, etc.
So there's LOTS of other things going-on in a pistol fight, and it makes VERY little difference that your practice load has quite a bit less recoil than does your carry load. IF it's the case that some cops practiced with .38 wadcutters and carried 357 full charge ammo, they got killed for LOTS of other reasons than just the difference in recoil. They STILL miss the man COMPLETELY with 3/4 of their shots,(as a nationwide average, even using the far easier to control SA-DA 9mm, and they miss the chest 90+% of the time.
Diallo wasn't even shooting at those 4 cops. The fired 41 shots, the FURTHEST away cop being 15 ft, they hit him SOMEPLACE 22 times,with ONE solid hit to the chest. One cop fired at him 7x, from 6 ft away. GUESS who got 7 of those 22 hits, (as well as the single solid hit to the chest) hmmm?
That means that the other 3 cops, firing 34 shots, got 15 hits, ALL of them peripheral in nature.So getting MORE of the RIGHT KIND of practice, by virtue of using 9mm ball instead of .40, .45 plusP, or 357 Sig "carry loads" means a LOT more than does practicing LESS, with the 3x as expensive "realistic" ammo.
Where guys screw up is in doing so much of the sort of shooting that constitutes less than 1% of what's needed (ie, slow, or beyond 10 ft or at more than 2 targets in any one "exposure)) Fire as fast as you can. Get a timer, keep records. Use doubled layers of black plastic sheeting to simulate darkness. Rig a moving target, fire while moving, use cover efficiently, fire from awkward positions,weither either hand, and with the "wrong" eye per hand. You can easily lose the loss of one eye(temporarily) from debris striking you (from anear miss) or from yourown or another's blood running down your face.
