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lack of water in the pipes, lack of electricity (both unfixable) and paper $=asswipe, it's just a temporary, local thing, that driving a few hours gets you out of. Therefore, it doesn't amount to a crap, and doesn't require a gun, much less a backpack, etc, etc, etc.
 

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So tell us in detail what your fantasy of SHTF really is. Then list in detail the kit that you have ready AT THIS MOMENT. You post yours and I'll post mine, complete with pictures!
 

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andy said:
lack of water in the pipes, lack of electricity (both unfixable) and paper $=asswipe, it's just a temporary, local thing, that driving a few hours gets you out of. Therefore, it doesn't amount to a crap, and doesn't require a gun, much less a backpack, etc, etc, etc.
Ok, here's your chance to enlighten us. What is SHTF?

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For andy, shtf is being away from the computer for 24 hours.

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He's made up a scenario which can never happen in real life. So you can't really say his tactics for survival won't work because they can never be tested.
 
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