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ditto match shooting plinking, teaching novices, None of which a bolt action 308 is any good for at all. and all of which a 223 AR does very well at. when you add the .22 conversion unit for small game, survival, plinking and teaching, it's superb. There's a reason why wifey owns no other longarms and it's not for lack of money. It's an excess of skill and knowledge, actually. There's no need of any other longarm when you're adequately skilled. Same is true for 2-3 handguns. The only people who have any use for the third one (a silenced, re-worked pocket 22lr) are people with the sort of skills that i have.

otherwise, best just stick to the pocket 9mm and the belt 9mm practice gun, which is of the same type as the pocket gun. Otherwise you're just wasting time and money. Until you have the sort of speed and accuracy that lets you toss up a couple of soda cans, draw from concealment and reliably hit both cans in the air, you aint good enough with your ccw pistol. and when you can do that, reliably, you need to be working on hand to hand skills. Kicks, especially, are hard to maintain when it comes to adequate speed, balance and timing Nearly all of the grappling and hand strikes you see being used are because the guys can't kick waf.
 

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once you've taken your1-2 head of big game for the year, that's IT for for the big game rifle. It just sits in the corner, a waste of time and money. Just because you are incapable of closing to within 100m and pulling a brain hit on a moose, elk or great bear? why bother? Archers take big trophies all the time, and can't reliably get chest hits at half the range as a braced AR 223 can reliably brain such critters. Just use a walking stick to brace standing shots, if brush wont let you sit and use your framepack to brace the rifle. A 6" brain circle is an easy mark from offhand, really, at 100m. especially with a scope and a trigger job. heavier calibers are a very dangerous proposition to just be winging shots with, vs varmints, cause their bullets hold lethality to ridiculously long distance, like over a mile. 40 gr jhp's in 223 break up completely if they hit much of anyhing, inside 500 yds, where they have enough velocity left to do so. They shed their velocity so fast that even if all the contact is air, there's not much left to them at 500m when it comes to striking energy. most small animals only require a .22lr pistol to take. I took dozens of prairie dogs with a .22 unit on a 1911 frame in CO. All it takes is a little camp chair and a 3 sided folding blind. They MUST consume their body weight in food, every day, or they soon starve. So it's not long before they come out of their holes again. If your .22 makes no noise, as mine didn't most of them wont even flee when you pop the first one. It's just a myth that such things have to be done at long range. When I drove a truck out there, I could have taken a pronghorn per week, out of the truck window, with a 1911. They are that uncaring about humans and vehicles. I could have taken several elk per year that way, too. And I'd bet my life that the same is true of Moose in areas where they live. It's only in hunting season, obeying the rules, that makes it difficult, and even then, it's not if all you want is a cow or a juvenile for meat.
 

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Why can you not hog hunt with a .308?
 

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Got a phone call from a friend a couple of days ago and he was mentioning that up in his farm about 3 hours north of me, he was having a feral hog problem and invited me up in the spring. I guess my first range time in the spring will be building a 300 yd load for my scoped 6.5 x 55 using 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. Looking forward to it if we can make it happen.
 

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Why can you not hog hunt with a .308?
Because for whatever reason he won't admit he's recoil and noise sensitive. Plus maybe the rifle's weight would be bad for his back.

So as many people do with mental issues based on low self-esteem he transfers all his short comings to everyone else.

He can't shoot a .308 well so no one else can in his mind.

Here's a pic of the 225gr Hornady ELDM Bullet I hand load for my .300WM when compared to a whole .223/5.56NATO cartridge. Probably gives Melvin the frights just looking at it.
Both rounds have their uses just the right tool for the job.
 

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Bolt actions do very well on hogs and varmints. Where do you pull such ignorant crap from?

you clearly have no experience with hog or varmint hunting.

if you want to make a point about the virtues of an AR in .223, go ahead. But you make dumbass assertions that anyone with a lick of experience can see through.
 

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Got a phone call from a friend a couple of days ago and he was mentioning that up in his farm about 3 hours north of me, he was having a feral hog problem and invited me up in the spring. I guess my first range time in the spring will be building a 300 yd load for my scoped 6.5 x 55 using 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. Looking forward to it if we can make it happen.
I just finished loading 50 rounds of 140 gr Barnes TSX bullets for my .280 - on top of 55.5 gr of H4350
this Is my deer / hog load for my bolt action rifle. I also use my AR 10 for hogs.
 

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I wish I had picked up a Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55 when I had the chance a few years back. Friend sold his and I passed on it, a decision I regret.
 

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varmints, to include hogs=hunt all year. ditto match shooting plinking, teaching novices, None of which a bolt action 308 is any good for at all.
Again, why can't you hunt hogs with a .308?
 

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I've owned at least 6 different 6.5x 55mm's since 1990 and probably put at least 1,000 factory projectiles and about 5,000 gas checked cast lead bullets down range. Even some of the older service rifles with slightly worn barrels still give acceptable accuracy out to 200+ yds.
 

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I wish I had picked up a Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55 when I had the chance a few years back. Friend sold his and I passed on it, a decision I regret.
I bought one one time years ago; I think back in 1991 or so when I had my ffl and got a sporterized one from Century. It was very capable and extremely accurate. Ended up selling it to one of my brothers.
 

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As we get older, I appreciate the lower recoil of the 6.5x55 even more.
 
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