u aint IN the miltary,so it's a non issue. After shtf, time will be a complete non-issue, too. You'll take as much time as you need to accomplish a needed task, or it aint NEEDED,ya see. If you can just skip it, then it aint necessary. So the time involved is irrelevant. you won't HAVE anyone to meet, at a certain time and place.
watch tips
Recently, a friend told me something interesting about water resistance in watches. He said that most watches leak after the battery has been replaced. When the watch is reassembled by an amateur, like me, the o-ring or gasket is rarely replaced. Some pro's use a non-conducting, electronics type grease to aid sealing during reassembly.
Mud has been found to be a major cause of military watch failures. Being abrasive, mud that enters the button areas of a watch can damage seals and o-rings. This leads to the ingress of water, causing the watch to fail.
I don't trust spring-type strap bars on watches. My watches have "springbars", but I would like to have a G-Shock converted to use fixed strap bars. I've never had a watch band break, but I have had springbars pop apart, quickly turning a wristwatch into a pocket watch. However, my dog did bite a watch band in two this summer.
Mud has been found to be a major cause of military watch failures. Being abrasive, mud that enters the button areas of a watch can damage seals and o-rings. This leads to the ingress of water, causing the watch to fail.
I don't trust spring-type strap bars on watches. My watches have "springbars", but I would like to have a G-Shock converted to use fixed strap bars. I've never had a watch band break, but I have had springbars pop apart, quickly turning a wristwatch into a pocket watch. However, my dog did bite a watch band in two this summer.
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As the fantasy moves on....................................
Strange that men have used sundials, hour glasses and other time measuring tools through the centuries because they considered them important yet GK dismisses them as a non-issue. Guess he skipped his big hand/little hand classes way back when.
RIKA
RIKA
Knowing the time can allow you to predict tides for sea transportation or foraging, estimate animal feeding habits for hunting, deduce the time remaining for travel or activity plans, decide when to check your traps/trotlines, or simply to be punctual for a meeting.andy said:u aint IN the miltary,so it's a non issue. After shtf, time will be a complete non-issue, too. You'll take as much time as you need to accomplish a needed task, or it aint NEEDED,ya see.
Not to mention: determine distance covered at a known pace, allow prep for sunrise/sunset and moonlight on an otherwise black night, also to time intervals of watchstanders in an AO under surveilance, calculate BT on a dive requiring consideration of nitrogen build-up in one's bloodstream, co-ordinate a TOT or other time critical evolution, work as a rudimentary compass, and on and on...
SatCong
SatCong
yeah, right, like the guys COULDN'T figure out such things WITHOUT a watch, or like those things amount to a crap in the first place, right?
u aint gonna HAVE anybody to help stand guard, much less "surveill" anyplace.
At least that's what you hope...but, you have no way of knowing what anyone will or won't have.andy said:u aint gonna HAVE anybody to help stand guard, much less "surveill" anyplace.
Given teh numbers of people who will be prepared, and who have friends and/or family, it is pretty silly to beleive that not any of them will meet or be able to work together. (History is not on your side on this one...)
:devil:
And getting bent from ignoring your BT is never a non-issue, even if you survive, you will suffer for the rest of your lonely life, Andy. I do not plan to operate independently for any longer than it takes to establish the groups we will all need to survive and re-build. Society will endure. Your "lone-wolf" fantasy will, if manifest, prove to be your demise. We only reply to your initial odd-ball statements, and when proven wrong, you llike to add new parameters in an attempt to support the original premise. Perhaps if you thought through these proclamations, the quality as well as the numbers of your posts would, indeed increase, if, in fact, the sheer number of your posts gives you some comfort in achieving your agenda, whatever it may be.
SatCong
SatCong
Tard can't use a compass, why should we even begin to think he could read a watch?
Mike
Mike
Actually, a reliable analog watch can serve as a compass if it's anywhere near accurate.
Point the hour hand at the sun, and the 12 o'clock points surprisingly accurately south. (In the northern hemisphere, daylight savings time notwithstanding.)
Watches are my "other" fetish, after guns; but whether a watch would be important post-shtf, can't say. Probably not life-critical equipment, so I'm not getting into that argument other than to say there could be times it would be useful. Either to coordinate some action with someone, or even just to KNOW you waited a half-hour after that patrol passed before coming out of your hole, rather than "thinking" it's been "about" a half hour.
That said, main problem with watches in a "total collapse, long-term, mad-max post-shtf" situation is that you have to trade off accuracy for useable lifespan; no way around it. A battery operated watch is much more accurate than a mechanically-driven one, even a high-end mechanical one. Even if your mechanical watch is a Rolex (all Rolexes are mechanical, not quartz), it's only certified to 2 1/2 minutes (150 seconds) a month accuracy. Even a much lower-end quartz watch will be MUCH more accurate than that; generally on the order of 5-7 seconds a month. My battery-driven Omega (which is less than half the price of a Rolex) only gains right at 2-3 seconds a month. And again, that's using a "top end" Rolex mechanical's specs; a lower-end mechanical watch will have much sloppier tolerances.
That means that even a Rolex will be off by a half hour fairly quickly, and even if you do try to adjust it on say, the first of every month, it's still going to just get worse & worse as time goes on.
On the other hand, a battery-operated watch would be basically limited in lifespan to the battery currently installed when the shtf; post-shtf replacement isn't likely.
My thoughts? I have high-end mechanical and quartz watches both, and almost never wear the mechanical anymore. I like knowing that it's "two o'clock", not just "about two o'clock". Lithium batteries can run an analog watch for 5-7 years (and a digital watch for up to 10 years); so having a new battery installed every couple years would mean the current battery always had at least 3-5 years' life left if replacement became impossible.
As much as I hate plastic/rubber watches, the Casio G-shock is darn near indestructible, water proof to deeper than I'll ever go, weighs probably a fourth what the Omega does, costs around fifty dollars, and being digital, has an 8- to 10-year battery life. If I were going to Iraq next week, it would be either the rubber G-shock or the stainless Luminox I'd be wearing; most likely wearing the Luminox with the G-shock packed away as a spare. (I really, viscerally just about hate black rubber "sports" watches, but they are undeniably practical.)
Nowadays it's the battery-driven Omega 95% of the time, with the TAG-Heuer for rare dressy occasions.
Again, is a watch really "must-have" post-shtf gear? Certainly not the highest priority item, but for certain things it would be useful.
Point the hour hand at the sun, and the 12 o'clock points surprisingly accurately south. (In the northern hemisphere, daylight savings time notwithstanding.)
Watches are my "other" fetish, after guns; but whether a watch would be important post-shtf, can't say. Probably not life-critical equipment, so I'm not getting into that argument other than to say there could be times it would be useful. Either to coordinate some action with someone, or even just to KNOW you waited a half-hour after that patrol passed before coming out of your hole, rather than "thinking" it's been "about" a half hour.
That said, main problem with watches in a "total collapse, long-term, mad-max post-shtf" situation is that you have to trade off accuracy for useable lifespan; no way around it. A battery operated watch is much more accurate than a mechanically-driven one, even a high-end mechanical one. Even if your mechanical watch is a Rolex (all Rolexes are mechanical, not quartz), it's only certified to 2 1/2 minutes (150 seconds) a month accuracy. Even a much lower-end quartz watch will be MUCH more accurate than that; generally on the order of 5-7 seconds a month. My battery-driven Omega (which is less than half the price of a Rolex) only gains right at 2-3 seconds a month. And again, that's using a "top end" Rolex mechanical's specs; a lower-end mechanical watch will have much sloppier tolerances.
That means that even a Rolex will be off by a half hour fairly quickly, and even if you do try to adjust it on say, the first of every month, it's still going to just get worse & worse as time goes on.
On the other hand, a battery-operated watch would be basically limited in lifespan to the battery currently installed when the shtf; post-shtf replacement isn't likely.
My thoughts? I have high-end mechanical and quartz watches both, and almost never wear the mechanical anymore. I like knowing that it's "two o'clock", not just "about two o'clock". Lithium batteries can run an analog watch for 5-7 years (and a digital watch for up to 10 years); so having a new battery installed every couple years would mean the current battery always had at least 3-5 years' life left if replacement became impossible.
As much as I hate plastic/rubber watches, the Casio G-shock is darn near indestructible, water proof to deeper than I'll ever go, weighs probably a fourth what the Omega does, costs around fifty dollars, and being digital, has an 8- to 10-year battery life. If I were going to Iraq next week, it would be either the rubber G-shock or the stainless Luminox I'd be wearing; most likely wearing the Luminox with the G-shock packed away as a spare. (I really, viscerally just about hate black rubber "sports" watches, but they are undeniably practical.)
Nowadays it's the battery-driven Omega 95% of the time, with the TAG-Heuer for rare dressy occasions.
Again, is a watch really "must-have" post-shtf gear? Certainly not the highest priority item, but for certain things it would be useful.
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