a bit loose at the hips, a Kydex front pants pocket rig, secured in the pocket with velcro, and a pocket rig can be at LEAST as fast as a cc'd shoulder rig, or belly band, FASTER than fanny pack or Thunderwear, that's for sure, to say nothing of an ankle rig. It's at least as fast as a ccw belt rig, when the normal concealing garment is covered with a FASTENED winter coat,too. In bad weather, simply palm the pocket rig and gun into the coat pocket,that's all. When get indoors, or just before entering a building, palm the gun andrig into pants pocket (if removing the outer coat is part of the game plan.)