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.50 is for material destruction and setting fires, not hitting people in the head. what makes you think that a guy would be dumb enough to just stand there, fully exposed, in daylight, in open country, for the 2 minutes or so it would take you to evaluate everything, set up and get the hit? Any sort of movement on his part = a miss, at 600 yds, much less 1000 yds. If the range is off by a mere 100m, you'll have to adjust sighting for it. You can handle men with rds that cost much less. The .50 is for using incendiaries against fuel dumps, propane tanks, liquid fueled rockets, etc. It's a huge waste of money and time.
 

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To each his own opinion, some people just like shooting that discipline.
 

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Seems to me I saw a report of one of the snipers that was doing a great job, at about a mile distance with hitting individuals, in order to protect another group. Of course he also had a selection of ammo too, so he wasn't limited to the ball rounds..
At 1000 yards, we are only talking a 1.5 second eta for the bullet..
However, at a 3-600 yard range,... I wouldn't want to get in the way...
 

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The other thing Andy isn't taking into consideration is that most of the time, folks at that range don't even know there is a threat.

The .50 cals and .338 Lapua are often used in interdiction (interrupting the movement of men and materiel), or to cover other units that are under attack. The attacking forces will not know they are being targeted. So, there will be none of this bobbing and weaving.
 

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so what? They don't know it at 400 yds, either! :) They shut their eyes, hunch their shoulders,a nd yank their triggers. All hits by them beyond 50 ft are pure luck. So they don't realize that better marksmen exist.
 

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I think the premise is wrong. First of all, all trained snipers that I know of, try to shoot from a prepared position or"hide" as it's called, and know the range and target they'll be engaging. It certainly wouldn't take two minutes for a trained sniper to aquire and engage a target unless he was being very selective. The .50 rifles WERE acquired with material destruction in mind, but were also selected for long range sniping at which they have proven to be very effective, both in casualities and morale. When your fellow ******** drops dead missing a large portion of his anatomy and you have no idea where the shot came from or where the next one will hit, it's bound to upset you. The scenario given makes it sound like .50 caliber sniper teams rove an AO looking for target's of opportunity, and that's not how they are utilized.
 

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look up the fat 50. it's self explanatory, as for why, i guess the answer to that is why not.
 
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