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see settling for an Sks and a good Smith 2214 pocket .22, for economic reasons,. as shtf gun gear. The Star makes an excellent ccw gun for the man,in "normal times", of course. Very few people are going to work hard enough to make any other rifle and pistol combo do enough more to matter any, and canning the guns is an option only for the most dedicated, highly skilled type of man. The SKS, with Cor Bon 150 gr softpoints,is quite potent as a big game-getter,the.22 rifle is quite capable of taking cattle, deer with brain shots, and if it's canned, it's no joke as a man-deterrent, either.

The wife's 9mm is to let her make enough noise to call you back from wherever you went, or let her effectively commit suicide if you can't (in time). No more than a woman is likely to ever achieve as a defensive entity, in "normal times", the 2214 can deliver. That is, BLUFF. Bluffing, it doesn't matter that she can't get the thumb safety on the 2214 Smith disengaged in a proper, one handed manner. The little Smith is quite accurate enough to successfully forage-with, post shtf, and for short forays away from camp,you might risk only taking the Star and the .22 rifle. So those 4 guns add up to a very versatile, capable combination.

The .22 rifle should probably be a 10-22, with a GunsNStuff takedown stock, because the Marlin Papoose costs a lot more than the Ruger does, is a lot harder to find in good used condition, and good, high cap mags are available for the Ruger, but not for the Marlin. That MIGHT change, after the 94 AW ban dies this fall, tho. The Stainless Marlin offers a nice package,rustproof, etc.

Canning a .22 rifle is pretty simple. Doing same for the 2214,tho would mean having to internally thread the muzzle of the 3" barrel, leaving only 1.5" of rifling. Canning an SKS is a PITA,especially if the muzzle isn't already threaded.
 

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When canning your firearms do you just use straight vinegar or do you add other spices too?
 

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GK says "The wife's 9mm is to let her make enough noise to call you back from wherever you went, or let her effectively commit suicide if you can't (in time). No more than a woman is likely to ever achieve as a defensive entity, in "normal times", the 2214 can deliver. That is, BLUFF."

I trust you aren't speaking of all women gunclod. I would be happy to drop your sorry @ss in a basket and go back to my normal non-lethal stuff any day of the week - and twice on Sunday.

RIKA
 

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So list your bug out kit that you have ready to go AT THIS MOMENT!
 

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Why would you have to settle for the SKS when you have the super-duper 11" CAR15?

You have also eluded to having a 16" "Match" uppered AR as well, why would she have to settle for a 10/22?

You talk about a 9mm LW Commander, why wouldn't she carry that and the 16" "Match" AR and you your 11" CAR15 and chopped Star?

I can't begin to count the times you said you would be carrying a M21 and the chopped Star. What the fvck is going on here, you going to turn out being a poser?

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Teuf, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>kid just dosn't have any gun. That's what is being said between the lines. Notice he as just about dropped his CAR babble. Nope, he has a whole lot of nothin.
 

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So how long after the SHTF, do you commit suicide? You practice 1/2 day exercises so I'm assuming you'll wait at least 24 hours till you blow your brains out. Nothing like giving up! Survivors don't even consider that option, thats why they are survivors. WANNABE.
 

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My wife preffers her M1A1 Scout and her SIG P220. If she needs to make noise she can make quite a lot of it very loudly and very rapidly.
 

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Come on, Ladies and Gentlemen, I have already told you that John, does not own, and can never own a gun. He advises his wife to commit suicide? I would die trying to save her life, and not with the absolute worthless junk he suggests. Why listen to this idiot? An 11 inch CAR 15? No model ever stated. A Star 9MM, chopped with a "Can"? A Phoenix Arms HP .22? Oh, my aching back. If this was all I could come up with I certainly would quit posting on a serious firearms forum.
 

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"Come on, Ladies and Gentlemen, I have already told you that John, does not own, and can never own a gun. He advises his wife to commit suicide? I would die trying to save her life, and not with the absolute worthless junk he suggests. Why listen to this idiot?"

You are right of course Terry. His guns are imaginary and all his shooting is with his mouth.
 

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The only rifle that I would say that is probably in the home is his wife's SKS.

That being because at one time he obviously put his troll claws in it and lost or broke a part then went on an internet slander campaign against the fellow that sold it to her.
 
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